Welcome to Sign in | Join | Help
in
Home Blogs Forums Photos Calendar

Speak Up! Memphis

Shelby County Mayor Wharton Considering Consolidation

Shelby County Mayor A C Wharton dropped a bomb on the County Commission during his "State of the County" address Monday, January 7, 2008. He said it is time to consider consolidating with the City of Memphis.

Mayor Wharton said during his speech that the County is in a financial bind, and consolidating with the City may be the answer to the problem. He says next year's budget is short by $14 million, but the County's overall debt is $1.7 billion.

To stop the immediate financial problem, Wharton is proposing an "occupational privilege tax", which would tax all workers in Shelby County. Wharton says while this would help immediately, the long-term solution is consolidation.

"We can't cut our out way out. If we are more efficient, we can grow our way out," Wharton said.

He says he has invited all of the suburban mayors to meet with him and submit their consolidation questions and concerns. He says he supports a consolidation plan that would not affect the schools.

"If we get the schools off the table and convince the outlying areas… we can convince the outlying agencies and convince them we are not going to get rid of their boards. We may not need a change in our constitution."

Wharton also said he is not against the idea of having the voters approve a privilege tax and he wants to hear from people on the idea of consolidation.

What do you think about a consolidation between the City of Memphis and Shelby County? It's your turn to Speak Up! Memphis.

Published Monday, January 07, 2008 4:22 PM by APhillips

Comments

 

Bartlettman said:

only an idiot would think that consolidation with Memphis would ease the county's financal woes.  That would be like the USA bringing in Darfur as a 51st state to increase tax revenue
January 7, 2008 4:50 PM
 

MARS said:

LOL@BARTLETTMAN, hate it or not, it will happen hey there is always the country you can relocate to
January 7, 2008 5:16 PM
 

Cordovaman said:

This is a terrible idea. Everything the city has overtaken has devalued and the everything goes south. everytime the city has taken new territory it was supposed to fix that area, and what did it do? How many times do we have to hear this argument before we all know it is bull. they just want more tax money and when they get it they will not spend it on the new area for fire,police and needed services, they will misspend it on things like the pyramid, colleges that should be supporting themselves and raises for the city council and the mayor himself. I wonder if he will be making 500k in a year or two? Not allowing those people to vote on an issue that affects them is taxation without representation, shame on a.c. is he doesnt listent to the people that put him in office.
January 7, 2008 5:27 PM
 

Spike said:

"The fix is in"  After the "meeting" with Herenton and Wharton, things changed.  

Wharton is betraying County residents for his own goals.
January 7, 2008 5:46 PM
 

Not for it said:

I feel consolidation with the City would be a HUGE NO NO for Shelby County, I can see it now crime rate will rise in the county, and lets not talk about the property value as well as the new neighbors we may begin to get.
January 7, 2008 6:54 PM
 

NO Way said:

Why? People are trying to leave the city as it is. Why would we want to combine with a corupt broke government. This is rediculous. I am a teacher for Shelby County and my husband works for a Memphis company. If this happens we will most likley be leaving this city. We have wanted to leave for a while anyways. This will be the icing on the cake.
January 7, 2008 7:31 PM
 

u must be kidding said:

consolidation is not the way to go. I agree with "no way", people are trying to get out of the city, where are they suppose to go?? gibson county? And as far as the priviledge tax, now they want to tax an employee for the "priviledge" to work in shelbt county when there are 1000's of people paying high fuel cost to drive to shelby county to work only because there are no other jobs within 200 miles from shelby county. I live in Gibson county and have been unemployed for 14 months because there is no jobs here or in any of the surrounding counties.
January 7, 2008 8:18 PM
 

ANGRY said:

This is crazy.  My husband and I moved out of Memphis because of that crazy, mad mayor.  We live in Lakeland.  We moved here for the high quality schools, the city government's high standards, the quality of our neighbors, the budget we STICK to and the low crime rate.  Why would we want to be part of Memphis where every thing I stated we moved for is the exact opposite.  If the citizens of Memphis cared about Memphis the way the citizens of Lakeland care about Lakeland, I would not care about the consolidation.  All Memphis wants to do is buy buy buy, spend spend spend and increase the city debt and then bring in other cities to pay for it.  You elected the Mayor you deal with him.  Keep us out of it!  
January 7, 2008 11:05 PM
 

Doris said:

Why would anyone in the county want to be associated with the city of Memphis, that is why we moved from the city limits! I used to love Memphis, it's lovely clean streets, remember when we got awards for most beautiful city? Now it is a down right dirty place to live.  The wonderful thought of City of Blues, Rock and Roll capital of the world, the home of Elvis, BB King, and so on, has lost its glory in the rumble tumble world of Herenton. God bless our souls and save us from this most arrogant leader.  If he were white, he would have been shot by now.
January 8, 2008 1:07 AM
 

DJCOP said:

i moved to cordova about 3 years ago from east tennessee where i grew up. since moving here, i have been ashamed of the low level of professionalism, high crime, bad education, and corrupt politics. east tennessee is not heaven, but compared to memphis, it's like comparing a ribeye to vienna sausages. this doesn't surprise me because i didn't find out that my area of cordova was being annex until i went outside one morning to take my trash can to the road and saw that it was missing. then i saw a garbage truck coming down the street delivering new trash cans (memphis cans). it was also great to see that $1200 city tax bill 5-6 months later. so this is how memphis does business?There was no phone call, no email, no singing telegram, not even a plan flying across the sky spelling out ANNEX is smoke. i tried to keep an open mind about memphis, but my goodness, enough is enough. as a cop, it's quite humorous to hear politicians talking about safety when all they care about is getting rich, the unmoral way. you don't have to be a genius to see that a.c. is afraid of willie. remember how everyone was trying to get him run for office and then he all of a sudden dropped out after a few choice phrase from willie? ac is not crazy. why bite the hand that's feeding you, huh? whatever willie wants ac to do, he is going to do it. it doesn't take a rocket since to see that my precious area of cordova will son turn to Hickory Hill-Hickory Hood Part 2. But there's no point in crying over something you can't change. as they say, deal with it or leave. be looking for my For Sale sign soon.
January 8, 2008 5:19 AM
 

Oh, Yeah! said:

"Ribeye to vienna sausages" - I love that.
January 8, 2008 5:35 AM
 

amazed said:

@ No Way....I hope you don't teach English or spelling!  
January 8, 2008 6:28 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Anyone hear that willie-boy wants to exclude  all but Memphis city residents from voting on consolidation?   Is the man looking for a race war?
January 8, 2008 8:13 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

I live in Memphis and think it would be ridiculous for the county to consolidate with the city.  Memphis will drag the county down.  
January 8, 2008 8:24 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

This is only being done to bail out Memphis, not the county. Willie-boy knows that they can't raise property taxes in the city any higher, and he is looking to get the whites in the county to provide more money for him to steal. (funny how whitey's money is loved, but whitey is despised)  AC has shown his true colors here, help his own, bail out a brother, and get rich himself. Man of character...I think not. He is a pawn to Willie.  
January 8, 2008 8:38 AM
 

nikkie said:

At one time I had respect for AC Wharton. Then he tucked his tail and showed what he is really about. Didn't everyone get it when he refused to run against Willie??????? He showed his true 'weak' self at that time. Just as Bartlettman stated...he's a Willie pawn. Sickening to say the least!
January 8, 2008 8:54 AM
 

kcooper said:

Bartlettman, i think you're totally wrong. I live in Bartlett and i do not want the annex either, but your notion that willie wants white money is far off. Firstly you guys are the ones who put him in office.  Secondly it's not to bail out Memphis. The county is in debt all by itself. There are certain things like schools that the county is suppose to pay for anyway and they do not, so part of the budget problem is that the county does not have the money to cover it's own tab and neither does the city so the annex will help both. I've always wondered why Memphis is one of the only metro ares with 2 mayors. Other cities this size only have one. Why waste extra money on 2 of everything, when the annex and consolidate will cut the workforce in  government by 40%.
I don't want to become a part of Memphis either. I moved to Bartlett to feel safer. but the consolidate should save money.

i just think you're stupid to beleive that your white a** money makes a difference.
January 8, 2008 8:59 AM
 

kcooper said:

also bartlettman, i'm black and i live in the county, so  does that mean i get to keep my money since they only want white county money????????
January 8, 2008 9:04 AM
 

we put king wille into office? said:

Firstly you guys are the ones who put him in office says kcooper



are you crazy ..what percentage of black voters voted in the "king" compared to the white voters in memphis. i dont believe the white vote got the "king" into office.
January 8, 2008 9:20 AM
 

Kari said:

lol @ kcooper. You didn't need to add a follow-up to your original post to inform anyone of your race. Your race was made  perfectly clear by your statements  in your original post. As for re-electing Willie, don't blame ALL for what the Memphis majority did to the city! (ahemm - and the majority of the city is not white!)  
January 8, 2008 9:29 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

What really gets me is that every time they mention consolidation, the non-Memphis residents always get screwed over.  First it was the police consolidation, but, wait, we aren't going to have the County Sheriff, who was elected by a majority in ALL of the county lead.  Let's have the appointed by the Memphis mayor MPD director lead both forces, that makes sense.  Now we have them talking about ammending the state constitution to make Memphis basically control the rest of us, whether we like it or not.  I say we impeach both mayors, and find two people who are both able to act on their own without being intimidated by one another, and who are genuinely looking out for the best interests of EVERYONE involved.  Oh, wait, this is Memphis, so I guess that will never happen.
January 8, 2008 9:48 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Did you not know that if the county raises money for schools, 2/3s of that money goes to memphis. IOW if the county wants to build a school, for 30 million, they have to raise 90 million and give 60 million to the city. The county may be in debt, but don't for one minute think that the city does not get money from the county.

Remember when Willie boy wanted to annex part of Germantown.Tell me that was not a way to raise money, (and Hickory Hill and Cordova) Memphis has destroyed its tax base and now wants to expand to the county. Tell me one gain that will come from consolidation in the already incorparated and thriving communites of Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville. The answer is nothing.


Heres what happening. AC talks consolidation to scare the county into accepting higher tax rates (which would also be paid by Memphis residents), Memphis  and Shelby county taxes increase, driving tax payers not to the county, but to MS, and Tipton co. This will decrease the tax base, resulting in ever escalating taxes. Name one case where raising taxes has pushed a community to prosperity. You can't. To increase revenue you must increase the tax base through incentives to employers, who will bring in jobs and increase the numbers of people paying taxes.  Would you rather have 1000 people paying 1 dollar or 2000 people paying 60 cents? That is how you raise tax revenues. People that do not see that are just dummies.

Throw an ice cube in hot water. What happens. The ice cube melts and the water gets colder. The water gains the ice loses. That is what will happen to Shelby County. We are the ice, we melt, Memphis gets a little warmer, and then they squander that warmth through stupidity and poor leadership.

Tell me why willie wants the county residents left out of the voting process?  Simple, he wants his money from the county. King George lost the colonies for the same reason.

Is Memphis broke?  Hard to say, every time it needs to be broke it is and every time it needs to show a surplus it does.  Plain and simple cooking of the books.

January 8, 2008 9:49 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Mags,

Should I run?
January 8, 2008 9:51 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

water gets colder. The water gains the ice loses. That is what will happen to Shelby County. We are the ice, we melt, Memphis gets a little warmer, and then they squander that warmth through stupidity and poor leadership.


 I should have said  Memphis gets colder
January 8, 2008 9:53 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

Just judging from what you've said so far, you would be an infinitely better choice than either king willie or A.C., so yeah, I'd vote for you over those two (even though I only get to vote for one of those officials).
January 8, 2008 9:55 AM
 

MarieSan2c said:

I'm not understanding from the article that residents of Shelby County would become residents of Memphis if our government is consolidated so all this outrage of devalued property, increased crime (?), unwanted neighbors, etc., seems to be overreaction.  I've long felt local government should be consolidated including the school systems.  Consolidating government does not mean annexation, does it?  If I am misinformed, please correct me.  Thank you for your time.
January 8, 2008 10:47 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Hey cooper, querstion fo u,

izz u be saying that da mayur not want dat white money so he can buy some bling? u mst be ignant like he be.


Sorry,

The fact I was formerly the mayor in a small city in North Carolina probably does not qualify me to talk about such things.  All I know is when I helped to bring in a company that employed 250 people, my tax revenues went up, and tax rates remained low.  Guess what, there was almost no population growth!
January 8, 2008 10:52 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

To MarieSan2c:
While we may not officially become Memphis residents if we were consolidated, we would be controlled by Memphis (see my earlier post about the police dept.), therefore, in my mind, that makes us as close to Memphis residents (without the right to vote for our leaders) as being annexed would.  That is why we are outraged.  Our rights as citizens are being taken away in this process.  That should outrage anyone.
January 8, 2008 11:06 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Marie what would happen is revenues rasied in the county would be spread evenly over the entire county, and the city would spread its money as well. There would not be a increase in money, just who gets what.  There are ways that this will save money, but it would take a lot of research to determine if that savings would in fact out weigh the advantages.  Now if both the city and the county were in the black, growing and prospering, this would be a great idea.  But that just is not the case here in Memphis and Shelby county
January 8, 2008 11:16 AM
 

kcooper said:

FIRSTLY, Bartlett Boy, why do you feel the need to talk like you have lost it all. You racist ***. Maybe back water hillibillies like you speak in that manner, but i don't.

Does it bother you that i live in Bartlett just like you???

Does it scare you white folk that we make just as much as you do???

Are you afraid that the annex will bring black little man closer to your lilly white little girls?????( and beleive me your little girl will crave them, just like your racist ass craves black women, but you'll never let your KKK brotherhood know that will you???)

Are you afraid that when you go to the store, we may be there.

Secondly, i have an idea for all you bright whittes...........IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, MOVE. And Bartlett Boy, why don't you go back where you came from. Go be Mayor of another back wash little town of hillibillies, population 10.

It still stands, you guys use "US" when it's open for you. First you say, we don't vote because either we're to lazy or we all have criminal records and then when something goes wrong with the current mayors, you say we put them in office.

AC was your token black boy and now you feel protrayed. He crossed you out. Ole' blacky is putting colored folks at your front door and you don't like it. What happened with him, didn't you white folk put him in office????

I still stand on the idea, two governments is a waste. of money.


Sorry Bartlett Boy, you lose this one!!!!! See you at a grocer near you!!!!.
January 8, 2008 11:26 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Such rage........such anger....

come on now, you are really a welfare recipent from Northaven or Orange Mound..

If I am wrong, oh well.    I don't care.

Don't like me? I din't care.

Go crawl under a rock.....
January 8, 2008 11:50 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Hey Kcooper just remember, If we consolidated, Shelby County goverment would become the governing body, not memphis goverment.

January 8, 2008 11:53 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Anyone see how long it took for coopie to yell racist..........tell you what he really is all about. Typical black defense. That and running around in a gang.  
January 8, 2008 11:59 AM
 

openmindopenears said:

Mr. Bartlettman, you seem to be an intelligent guy by some of the things you come up with, however your "izz u be saying" comments have made me question. I understand the oppostion for everyone opposing in part, but I believe the most intellgent thing would be to pay attention and listen with an open mind. I truly believe OUR Mayor A.C. Wharton has the best intrest of the ENTIRE county in mind. If people (all residents of the county) like you who obviously have intelligent ideas would listen and allow the plan to be laid out maybe we will be surprised as to what it may be. Please elaborate on your "incorporated and thriving communities Bartlett, Germantown, and Collierville" comment. You are right they are thriving but I don't believe Mayor Wharton is talking about taking away or taking over your community or any other surrounding municipality. Please stay open minded your jump to conclusion attitude is not an intelligent one, especially coming from a former community leader. This is not the late 1700's nor is it the early 1800's, what King George did has nothing to do with the future industry, business, or economy of the Shelby County Metro area including your thriving community. Lets all thrive together in the future. Like it or not Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville, Millington, Arlington, or Lakeland do not set the economic pace for our community.
January 8, 2008 12:07 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

cooper,

If there is so much black pride in you, then why is it you want to move to Bartlett? Should you not be in the mound? And why is it that you want to be near "lilly white little girls?"   Can't handle a fine black african princess?    

January 8, 2008 12:11 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

@ k cooper.....who is the racist?????
January 8, 2008 12:13 PM
 

Openmindopenears said:

Kcooper settle down Mr. Bartlettman is not worth getting enraged over and he definately does not represent logical thinking white males living in this culturally rich county.However it is ashamed that he makes so difficult for the rest of us.
January 8, 2008 12:19 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

open minded,

I was just trying to rattle cooper.

Anyway, you are right, consolidation would work, if both enities came in with equal status. Trying to ease economic woes of one by consolidating may not be the best idea.   I made that statement earlier.  The part of this that rekes is the city trying to exclude the county from having a vote on the issue. This is wrong. And no he is not taking over the communities, but taking from the communities is not right, especally if the county does not get the right to choose their own fate.

None of this addresses the root problem. Crime, substandard schools, corruption, nepotism are the issues.

Fix these, make the city a place that industry will want to locate to, get people off welfare, get them to work. That is how you fix the city and the county. Then consolidate away. I would support consolidation at that point.
January 8, 2008 12:24 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

  Openmindopenears said:
Kcooper settle down Mr. Bartlettman is not worth getting enraged over and he definately does not represent logical thinking white males living in this culturally rich county.However it is ashamed that he makes so difficult for the rest of us.


In fact, i am probably the most open minded logical person you would ever hope to meet.
January 8, 2008 12:26 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

explain how I make things difficult for you? by speaking truth and logic?
January 8, 2008 12:27 PM
 

LEAVENOW said:

WHY ARE YOU DUMB A%%ES ANYWHERE CLOSE TO MEMPHIS? MOVE DEEP IN THE COUNTRY WITH YOUR NASTY BODY ODORS OR JUST MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE.  YOU COUNTY BUMPKINS ARE REAPING THE AWARDS FROM MEMPHIS WHILE YOU KEEP YOUR DUMB A$$ES IN THE COUNTY REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S BARLETT, GERMANTOWN OR COLLIERVILLE.  MOVE ON- THE CITY OF MEMPHIS DOESN'T WANT NOR DO WE NEED YOU.  AS A MATTER OF FACT, IF YOU LIVE IN THE SO CALLED 'COUNTY' YOU SHOULD BE PAYING A MUCH HIGHER TAX INCLUDING A PAYROLL TAX FOR EVEN WORKING IN THE CITY.   MOST OF THE COUNTY CITIZENS ARE CRYSTAL METH HEADS ANYWAY  WHICH MEANS YOU'RE TOO NASTY TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GREAT CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF MEMPHIS WITH YOUR NASTY DOGS, CATS AND UNCLEAN CARS POLUTING THE AIR..  THIS IS WHAT MAYOR WHARTON SHOULD LAY AT YOUR FEET, DUMBA$$ES!!
January 8, 2008 12:57 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

now that's intelligence.....

Hickory Hill??
January 8, 2008 1:02 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

This could be the push this city needs to become a major force in the south just like Atlanta. We really need to get it together and stop fighting change, stop being scared of the unknown, and stop keeping progress from taking place!
January 8, 2008 1:06 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

We will never be a force with the current leadership. Change that and maybe.

Reduce property taxes, cut waste, improve schools, bring in commerce, reduce crime, thses thins will grow memphis
January 8, 2008 1:13 PM
 

Cmac said:

I  say no consolidation...I live in the county for a reason. If I wanted the problems of Memphis...I'd live in the city. I witness many of the problems of Memphis when I work with their inner city youth daily. So to LEAVENOW if the citizens of Memphis are so great..then why aren't many of you trying to redirect and reshape your children into positive people???? Why do I and my co-workers  have to beg for parental involvement in positve youth based programs????? (And I take it your comments were directed at white people in the county  based on the comment you made about meth and body odors...so just so you know I'm black) And Bartlettman...I was thinking the same think (Hickory Hill) LOL
January 8, 2008 1:17 PM
 

AMBER85 said:

gmoney2u:

Why would we want to be ANYTHING like Atlanta??  Its just about as ghetto as Memphis!

LEAVENOW:

Taxed to work in the city??  Where would that tax money go??  To the ppl who dont work??  I dont think so!  I live in the county and work in the city b/c they city is a disgusting place to be! If that happens my business already has plans to move out of Shelby County!!!  

Im so tired of being the minority when im not getting to take advantage of the things that are offered to minorites just b/c im white!

January 8, 2008 1:21 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

damn if cmac agrees with me I must be right, because as many would know the two of us have had our differences.   Want to get together for coffee?

If I run can I count on your vote?
January 8, 2008 1:22 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Amber, your vote too?
January 8, 2008 1:23 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Damn, I better watch my spelling or people are going to think I was educated in Memphis.

January 8, 2008 1:26 PM
 

AMBER85 said:

You def have my vote!!!
January 8, 2008 1:26 PM
 

READY TO GO said:

Well we moved here to go to school and I have never seen anything like it in all my travels!  I can hardly wait for my husband to finish school so we can leave this God forsaken place.  The racism, the corrupt government, the racism, the racism.  Oh my Lord!  And i can't believe that mayor got elected AGAIN!  Good gracious.  And it was the "black" vote that got him put back in office!  Mercy!  The "white" people don't live in the city limits!  Not a lot of them anyway.  And what "white" person would vote for a man who is so openly racist and doesn't like the white man anyway?
January 8, 2008 1:32 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Ready, can I count on your vote?
January 8, 2008 1:38 PM
 

READY TO GO said:

Honey if I am here that long yes you can!!!
January 8, 2008 1:41 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

I am on a roll.  Here what you get from me...common sense, straight talk, tell it like it is.  I call a spade a spade. I have vision, and expect others to have the same values that I hold, Intergrity, Commitment, Leadership and Excellence.
January 8, 2008 1:47 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Ready to Go is right....Memphis is the most racist city I have ever lived in.  I grew up in the northeast, but have spent a great deal of time, as an adult, living in the south.  By far, Memphis is the worst.  I have never seen more lazy, unmotivated people in my life.  There is no sense to it.  Like Ready, when I am finished with my work here, I will be glad to leave.  I would never consider living here permanently.    
January 8, 2008 1:50 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Bartlettman.....you are going to have to quit riling these semi-intelligent people up if you want them to take you seriously!  ROTFL!!!!!  
January 8, 2008 1:51 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

shadow, I think that there are enough intelligent people out there that would embrace me in a county wide election.  The only ones that would not are the lazy welfare whores and "ignant" people that would vote willie.

Now for city mayor I would get trounced.   We both know why


;)
January 8, 2008 1:55 PM
 

nikkie said:

LEAVENOW are you screaming lol Call a doctor maybe a Xanax might help!?!

I left Memphis after having to move 4 times to stay away from gangs and crime.  I purchased homes in nice areas only to have to give them up and move due to crime. I moved to Hickory Hill in 1983. It was a wonderful place to live but by 2001 it was a WAR ZONE! Look at it now! All the businesses have left and what was once a beautiful area in Memphis is just like the rest...resembling a war zone!  I live in Collierville now and I'm glad Willie can't get to us to annex! Our schools are fine so we need nothing from Memphis. I have no need to enter the city and I don't! We had nothing to do with voting Willie in AGAIN..those that did are getting exactly what they deserve and those that didn't should move.
January 8, 2008 2:17 PM
 

nikkie said:

Oh yeah and the beautiful home I owned, lived in for years, sold with everything in it from paint,  carpets, appliances to shingles on the roof like new.....became a HUD home with doors ripped off, gutted inside after 2 years! Shocked? I'm not!
January 8, 2008 2:24 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Amber85, Bartlettman, and should already be gone!! You all should must have got your butts kick, lady/man took, lost your job (lazy wh@#$$  trash), by some of the people you fear. MNSHADOW53 sounds to me like your the one who's very un-intelligent and what do you do for a living anyway loser!! All of you need to be run out of the country  yes I did say country not city scrubs!!! If you you want to bring it just bring it clowns!!!  
January 8, 2008 2:48 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

gmoney......."You all should must have got your butts kick?????"  Let me help you, I think you meant to say "you all should have your butts kicked."  Unintelligent needs no hyphen.  

But why do you vent your anger at me?  Did my doing a little thing like telling the truth upset you?   So sorry....please tell me you don't think Memphis is a wonderful place to live.

P.S.  Sarcasm.....in case you could not recognize it.  
January 8, 2008 3:21 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

hahahahaha

If you only had a brain....

tell me is it hard being stupid?
January 8, 2008 3:21 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

shadow my sarcastic friend,  what do you think is wrong with gmoney?
January 8, 2008 3:24 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

bring it?  what do you mean? a threat, placed on the internet can be considered assault. Let me do some IP address tracking and get the FBI involved, since that is a federal crime.  I do have connections.  Poor gmoney, a lawbreaker.
January 8, 2008 3:29 PM
 

MarieSan2c said:

Bartlettman, I thank you for your patient response as I did not hear Mayor Wharton's address in its entirety, my comments were based solely on the news report.  It seems as though consolidating some of the services and governing would be more efficient and productive.  Of course my support for consolidation is contingent on the approval and support of the citizenry.  

I am a graduate of a Memphis city school and, while MCS has some of the poorest achievers in the state, it also has some of the best.  Despite the scandals of late, the programs and opportunities for my child to succeed academically are far greater than the county school we were assigned . My requests for transfer were continuously denied via form letters complete with misspelling and grammatical errors.  That being said I cannot agree education would suffer with consolidation. But, like you implied, it has to be done in a way that benefits all of us, not just the officeholders.

I'm keeping an open yet optimistic mind that WE will do what is best for all of us and for the future.  These mayors, council members, commissioners, etc. are liable to us for their action.  I am a native Memphian and live in unincorporated Shelby County.  Like the earlier poster from Hickory Hill, I have seen a lot of areas developed into nice communities only to become urban blight in a very short time.  But I love my hometown and I have no immediate plans to leave here.  Rather, I will embrace the diversity, preserve the heritage and history, remain involved in the community, and definitely make my way to the voting booth on every election.

Y'all have a great day and remember what happens when you assume!
January 8, 2008 3:30 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

I respect your vision and comments. Consolidation, done right works. What does not work is using it to try to redistribute wealth. This is what appears to be the motivation.  I base this on AC's comments. I also disagree with Willie trying to make this a decision based on votes by only Memphis city residents. That is flat un-acceptable.  
January 8, 2008 3:44 PM
 

MarieSan2c said:

I disagree with Mayor Herenton as well.  I cannot find rational support for changing state law to prohibit county residents from having their say and I do try to understand the basis when someone in his position says or does something stupid. (I have been researching A LOT lately.)  

On the other hand, Mayor Wharton is not one to make senseless comments so I cannot help but think he has more to his plan.  Or perhaps he's counting on input from people like you and me.  

It is disturbing to witness the prejudice, bigotry, and sometimes pure hatred, demonstrated by some members of our community.  It is truly a shame that we still live in a place that has to insult and label those who offer a dfferent view.  If you don't understand why I'm saying what I'm saying, ask me to explain. Please don't assume facts that are not evident to you.  Speak up and ask! I began doing this 30+ years ago and it seems to work as I peacefully coexist with a lot of people different from myself.  Thank you for your time.
January 8, 2008 4:01 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

You have convinced me. I will accept AC's plan if it is sound, if not I will file suit if needed.
January 8, 2008 4:06 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Bartlettman you are very funny (in more ways than one!!) for a lame!! I've got F.B.I. connects as well partner. Plus I would'nt waist my time or energy on a clown like you trying to touch you I was talkin verbal clown! MNSHADOW53 you did'nt get it right at all it should have went like this clown ( you all must have got your butts kicked!!). So before you try to funny get it right clown. Yes I do believe this city is pretty cool. Why? How? Well I've been in worse & lived in worse. I moved back here from Virginia Beach VA after leaving for 4 years and I've done real good for myself good job, bought a home (BARTLETT!!!!), and have'nt had any conflicts at all. Plus I was putting a hyphen to let you know I was talking to you clown (semi-intelligent!!!)        
January 8, 2008 4:36 PM
 

MARS said:

If you have a problem with the consolidation of governments, why dont you all just move away to the country, or move out of state plain and simple, does it take a DOCTRINE DEGREE to figure that out, seriously complaining and griping wont get you nowhere,

this decision will take place, either deal with it and move on, or deal with it and move out the city,
January 8, 2008 4:40 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Ok here we go again.....@ gmoney.....It is WASTE my time, not WAIST my time.  WAIST is the area around the body....you know, where your belt goes.  And Bartlettman is very funny for a lame????  Lame what????  And it isn't "it should have went like this"  The correct way to say it is "It should have gone like this."  

I wasn't trying to be funny...just speaking English correctly.  Hmmmm you must be a graduate of Memphis schools eh?  

P.S.  It should be you've done very WELL (or really well) for myself.  But somehow I doubt that too.  
January 8, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Mars, because I have the right to voice opposistion to something I do not agree with, and this is something that I think is wrong. So if you have a problem with me having that right, I don't care.

gomoney, do you think before you type? If you do live in Bartlett, you moved there for a reason.....what could that have been?
January 8, 2008 4:52 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

sorry shadow, I was writing in ebonics so money would understand.
January 8, 2008 4:55 PM
 

MARS said:

@BARTLETTMAN, you have the right to complain and whine all you want, if the decision takes place what can you do about it? so i can care less what you have to say about this decision also, the government can care less for what the people say, they just want you do is to abide by their decisions,

So I can care less for your blogs also, I just made my statement,
January 8, 2008 5:03 PM
 

MARS said:

And I say again, either deal with it and move on, or move out, your choice.  Disagreeing with government decisions is pointless unless you are in the governing body, if not hey its best sit down somewhere and be queit, or you can go out and run for mayor or try to be in city hall lol
January 8, 2008 5:05 PM
 

MARS said:

Then some of you havent even heard mayor wharton speak his piece, lets just wait and see what he has to say, then you can complain and gripe lol
January 8, 2008 5:11 PM
 

MARS said:

With you so called english majors, the last time I checked, eyewitness news can care less on how you write your opinions, opinions are to be heard and anyone who knows the difference between left and right knows what a person is saying regardless if it is spelled or written incorrectly, only a arrogant person would take the time out to make verbal attacks towards someone's words, who cares for the words on a post,  I pay attention to what a person is saying on here,  

then what is this "you must be a product of memphis city schools" wow that is a hidden racist comment because what race dominates memphis city schools, black people, so I dont know who you all are fooling with that statement, you must as well be straight forward and just say you dumb black idiot , but hey you have those hidden racist bloggers in here, you know who you are,
January 8, 2008 5:20 PM
 

MARS said:

@GMONEY, keep posting comments the way you want to post them, disregard these hiddent racist who would smile and hang with a black person offline, but turn GOOD OLE BOY online lol,

I know what you was trying to get across some of these individuals just love confrontations and find it a thrill to get through someone's skin, for what reason on why they do it, I have no idea and do not care to find out,
January 8, 2008 5:28 PM
 

outspoken said:

government is not a separate living entity  government are operations and rules made by people..   Government is "for the people - by the people".  a common ground for everyones best interest.  this proposal is NOT in everyone best interest.  this is bail out for willie and all the lousy decisions his made for memphis and the misuse of its money.  all these grand ideas he has cost money and appear not to bring in the assets that memphis needs to survive.  so he's making it our problems.  we can't vote on his hair brained ideas,but he expects us to foot the bills when these ideas fall flat.  the people that moved to the county did so for a reason and resent having to pick the ball that's been dropped when the county wasn't even in the game.  i think that its convenient that ac didn't make his new feelings about consolidation known BEFORE election.  If he cut a deal with willie-he better have had it signed in blood and noterized-because willie will screw him over in a heart beat and not think twice about it.  the new tax-thats a joke-remember several years back when a TEMPORARY wheel tax went into effect-to air-condition schools.  Many years later-how many schools are STILL w/o air and when does TEMPORARY end?  where did the money go-can anyone justify how it was used? i doubt it!!!
January 8, 2008 6:27 PM
 

MARS said:

@outspoken, I like your first paragraph, that was very patriotic of you lol,  but seriously does the government really care for the people, with the high gas prices, and the corrupt justice system, and the low employment rate, and the dismantled health care system?

Then you have to ask yourself, what kind of people in the government is making these decisions, and for what type of people, they are looking out for when making these decisions.
January 8, 2008 6:41 PM
 

outspoken said:

its our own faults-we don't make wise choices when we vote.  we dont' study the candidates  or their track records.  if they smile enough and promise everything under the sun-people vote for them.  even though what they promise is not possible-people are too LAZY to stop and reason this out.  they just go with it.  this nation has gotten so passive that we will take anything that someone says and run with it whether it makes sense or not.  we don't think for ourselves anymore.  we wait for the loudest voice to tell us what to do.  its pathetic.  the newspapers tell us what to think-candidates tell us what to think and in stead of thinking for ourselves (that takes too much time and effort) we just follow the herd.  there is no right or wrong any more-you just do what's popular at the moment.  we're zoombies.  years ago there was a huge campaign stating that eating bacon was the worst thing in the world for you.  we were being told this for our own health-that idea is no longer popular so the talking heads no longer give a rats patoot if you eat bacon or not.  we as a nation have gotten so passive and divided in little sects afro-americans-mexican americans etc-etc. that we are no longer a one nation.  AND WE'RE JUST TOO LAZY TO WORK TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT.  keeping  a nation-a marriage-a job all takes a great deal of work and no one wants to work at anything anymore.  
January 8, 2008 7:06 PM
 

outspoken said:

the old arron tipon song "You've Got To Stand For Something-Or You'll Fall For Anything".  is very appropriate now adays.
January 8, 2008 7:43 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

MArs playing the race card.....must be a racist himself.
January 9, 2008 7:46 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

Mars,
After reading your last post you seem a little frustrated with our local and national government, yet you said earlier that no one should speak up because it wouldn't matter anyway, and that if they don't like it they should move.  I hear the skiing in Canada is nice this time of year; maybe you should check it out if you don't feel you're being treated fairly here.
January 9, 2008 8:16 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

 MARS said:
And I say again, either deal with it and move on, or move out, your choice.  Disagreeing with government decisions is pointless unless you are in the governing body


We are the governing body........I have not given up my right of free speech. If you have then you are the one that needs to move out...Darfur is a nice pkace to visit, so is Somalia
January 9, 2008 8:28 AM
 

gmoney2u said:

Bartlettman you are so wack! You must be some lonely old fart that does'nt have anything to do all day but sit here and be a racist butt munch!!! Don't try to act like your not you & your lover MNSHADOW53. MNSHADOW53 please don't try to make these lame correction jokes they really get you no props!! Your still weak, wack, and racist when you get down to it!!! You and your lover Bartlettman (EVERYBODY LIKE YOU!!!) are the real problem here not the everyday people of Memphis. Your hate and racist views are whats destroying the area walking around thinking that your more intelligent than everybody that does'nt look like you and putting everyone else in one group (as if there is'nt any unintelligent, criminal minded, and uneducated whites!!) lableing them with your sick views! You narrow minded fools should really be admitted to Lakeside for therapy with your wack hillbilly ways it's not my fault you were born you (serial killer , meth addict, and white horse rider opps that is one your white things isn't it!) doesn't feel good to be labled does it!
January 9, 2008 10:18 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

speaking of racist views.....see above post.
January 9, 2008 10:22 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

hey shadow, i did not know we were lovers, have you cut me off or what?

Not only a racist but suffers from homophobia.

I am lonely money...want to go out with me?
January 9, 2008 10:50 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

I would have thought crime, poor education, children born out of weblock, political corruption, and a generation of people on goverment assistance were the problems.
January 9, 2008 10:52 AM
 

MARS said:

Bartlettman you have been playing the racist card with every post you have made so far on here, who are you fooling, you have a joy and thrill making racist jokes and will do anything to get under someone's skin
January 9, 2008 11:08 AM
 

MARS said:

@bartlettmags, i am nowhere frustrated with the government, and the national government, pretty soon it will be a government policy that will be enforced that will cause all to decide their fate, if you have read your bible you will know where im coming from,
January 9, 2008 11:13 AM
 

gmoney2u said:

Fartman the generation of people on goverment assistance is consumed mostly by whites I knew you were slow, wack, lame, and racist but just plain stupid I never would have guessed that FARTMAN!!! Poorly education  falls on a mojority of these poor trailer trash whites so I guess you think that if their white they've got an education one thing to say about that (JERRY SPRINGER!!!). I guess little white girls don't have babies out of wedlock (CLOWN) or maybe their daddies are scared the truth will come out on who's the really father is? (opps! is that a white thing or what!!)    
January 9, 2008 11:15 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

So basically because the Bible says that we will all be under one government, you don't care about the people and policies who control our lives now?  For starters, there is no mention of a date for when that will happen; it could be hundreds or thousands of years from now (heaven forbid your pastor could be wrong, what with being human and all).  Secondly that kind of irresponsible attitude is the reason we are in the situation we are currently in.
January 9, 2008 11:19 AM
 

gmoney2u said:

Fartman the generation of people on goverment assistance is consumed mostly by whites I knew you were slow, wack, lame, and racist but just plain stupid I never would have guessed that FARTMAN!!! Poor education  falls on a mojority of these poor trailer trash whites so I guess you think that if their white they've got an education one thing to say about that (JERRY SPRINGER!!!). I guess little white girls don't have babies out of wedlock (CLOWN) or maybe their daddies are scared the truth will come out on who's the real father is? (opps! is that a white thing or what!!)    
January 9, 2008 11:22 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

money your facts are wrong....

Welfare Rolls Show Growing Racial and Urban Imbalance

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Graphic
Demographics: The Unlevel Playing Field
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

By JASON DePARLE

ASHINGTON -- As the welfare rolls continue to plunge, white recipients are leaving the system much faster than black and Hispanic recipients, pushing the minority share of the caseload to the highest level on record.

White, black and Hispanic recipients are all leaving welfare at unprecedented rates. But the disproportionately large exodus of whites has altered the racial balance in a program long rife with racial conflict and stereotypes.

The legacy of those stereotypes makes the discussion of race and welfare an unusually sensitive one. In the past, advocates and scholars have taken pains to note there were more white families on welfare than blacks. But that is no longer the case.

Blacks now outnumber whites. The Hispanic share of the rolls is growing the fastest. And black and Hispanic recipients combined outnumber whites by about 2-1. In addition, the remaining caseload is increasingly concentrated in large cities.

The New York Times

Some analysts warn that the growing racial and urban imbalance could erode political support for welfare, especially when times turn tight. More immediately, the changing demographics suggest that states may need new strategies as they serve those left behind, like recipients who do not speak English.

Consider the changing nature of the New York City caseload, which is larger than that of every state but California. Since the city's rolls peaked in March 1995, the number of whites on welfare has fallen 57 percent. That is nearly twice the 30 percent rate of decline for blacks. And it is nearly eight times the decline for Hispanic recipients, which is just 7 percent, lagging the declines for blacks and whites as it has nationwide. The city's welfare rolls are now 5 percent white, 33 percent black and 59 percent Hispanic.

Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan -- most of the states with large welfare populations like these have seen the number of whites on welfare declining faster than those of minorities. So have other states with marked caseload declines, like Wisconsin, Massachusetts and New Jersey.

The growing minority domination of the rolls is new, little-noticed and as yet largely unexplained. Most officials reacted with surprise when presented with the figures, which were compiled in an analysis of recent state data by The New York Times.

"Good grief!" said Rep. E. Clay Shaw Jr., R-Fla., who served as the primary author of the 1996 federal law that imposed time limits and work requirements. "That's definitely something we should look at. We don't want to leave one or two ethnic groups behind."

"I'm stunned," said Rep. Robert Matsui, D-Calif., who is among the legislators most knowledgeable about the program. Matsui counts himself among those who have fought "a perception that welfare was a minority program. We tried to show that wasn't the case."

There are a number of potential explanations for the changing racial demographics. They include possible discrimination by employers or by landlords in neighborhoods near jobs. In addition, unpublished data from the Census Bureau, prepared for The New York Times, suggest that minority recipients were significantly more disadvantaged than their white counterparts when the rolls peaked in 1994.

On average, they had less education, lower incomes and more children. They were less likely to have ever been married, a statistic that predicts lower rates of child support and lessened chances of leaving the rolls through a subsequent marriage. Perhaps most important, minority recipients were much more likely to live in poor, central city neighborhoods, far from the job growth that rings many cities.

Race is intertwined with place. Only 31 percent of white welfare families lived in central cities, the Census data showed. But 63 percent of Hispanic welfare families lived in those job-scarce areas, as did 71 percent of blacks. This may also mean minorities have faced less programmatic pressure to leave the rolls. Most states instituted their tough new rules outside the big cities, in regions with stronger economies and more responsive bureaucracies.

While the minority domination of the rolls could revive negative stereotypes, it comes at a time of unusual goodwill toward recipients of all races. With caseloads falling at a startling pace -- for minorities as well as whites -- taxpayers seem well-satisfied with the new ethos of time limits and work demands.

Flush with federal funds, states are investing in a variety of new employment services. And facing labor shortages, many corporations are courting a welfare population they once took care to avoid.

Citing that optimistic climate, some minority leaders say they do not expect welfare programs to attract new racial hostility. "If we had had this conversation six or seven years ago, it would have been a real concern," said Dennis Archer, the mayor of Detroit, who is black. But as jobs increase and poverty declines, even in the inner cities, Archer said, a racial backlash is unlikely. "Even those insensitive to minorities aren't willing to just turn their back and withdraw services just because of race," Archer said.

Others were less sanguine. Rep. Donald Payne, D-N.J., warned that the growing minority share of the rolls could erode support for welfare spending and reinforce racial bias in general.

"Wedge-issue politicians always use welfare as an issue," said Payne, who served as chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus from 1994 to 1996. "There's no question that stereotyping will expand. Before, it was misinformation. It might even now go to codify the stereotyping."

The most recent national figures on welfare and race are 17 months old. They showed that the number of white families on welfare had declined 25 percent since the rolls peaked in 1994. By contrast, the number of blacks families fell 17 percent and that of Hispanic families, 9 percent. But those differences appear to have widened in recent months, as the caseload declines have accelerated.

The New York Times surveyed 15 programs -- 14 states and New York City -- which account for nearly 70 percent of the nation's welfare population. Among them, only California had a sharper decline among blacks than whites -- 40 percent for blacks versus 31 percent for whites. The Hispanic decline in California was slower, 22 percent.

In all other programs, the number of whites on welfare declined faster than those of black or Hispanic recipients. And in more than two-thirds of the programs studied, the white rate of decline outpaced both the black and Hispanic rates by at least 10 percentage points. In Wisconsin, where the caseload declines have been most dramatic, an astonishing 96 percent of white recipients have left the rolls. (Black recipients declined 74 percent and Hispanic recipients, 78 percent.)


The result is an added imbalance in a program that already had a disproportionate share of minorities. By early 1997, blacks accounted for 37 percent of the nation's welfare caseload, though they are just 13 percent of the general population. Hispanics accounted for 22 percent of the welfare rolls, though they represent 11 percent of the general population. Whites, by contrast, accounted for just 35 percent of the welfare rolls, though they are 73 percent of the general population. That is the smallest white percentage of the rolls since the federal government began compiling annual figures in 1973.

As the rolls grow more dominated by minorities, they are also more concentrated in large cities. Detroit, Miami, St. Louis, Cleveland, Baltimore, Milwaukee and Philadelphia all saw their caseloads fall. But in each of those cities, the declines lagged the state average.

As a result, 48 percent of Pennsylvania's recipients now live in Philadelphia, up from 38 percent four years ago. In Wisconsin, virtually all the state's welfare recipients -- 85 percent -- now live in Milwaukee, up from 39 percent a decade ago.

But the urban lag has not been universal. Atlanta, Boston, Los Angeles and Bridgeport, Conn., have all cut their rolls at a pace that matches the rest of their respective states. And the declines in New York City, Chicago and Newark have lagged the state average by only a small percentage.

Among the most striking trends is the growing Hispanic share of the caseloads. As recently as 1983, Hispanic recipients accounted for just 12 percent of the nation's caseload, about half their current share. Some of that rise is due to the growing Hispanic share of the general population, but Hispanic recipients have also been leaving the welfare rolls at lower rates.

There are several possible explanations. Hispanic recipients lag blacks and whites in education levels and language skills. In addition, they tend to have larger families than white recipients. And some analysts suggest that Hispanic women face greater cultural pressures to stay at home with their children.

Citing the prevalence of language barriers, some advocates have argued that Hispanic recipients need more training, especially in basic language skills. "I would view this as a wake-up call, that the system is not working as it is supposed to," said Charles Kamasaki, vice president of the National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic civil rights group. "We had actually predicted that there would be a less smooth transition for Hispanics."

But most states have adopted a "work first" approach that emphasizes immediate job placements. "We don't recognize a language barrier as something that should keep someone from working in this economy," said *** Powers, a spokesman for the Massachusetts Department of Transitional Assistance. "Non-English-speaking people have been coming to this country and finding work for years."

The Census data cast new light on the obstacles that minority recipients face. The data are based on interviews with 5,400 welfare recipients in March 1994. One racial difference involves education. Among Hispanic recipients, 64 percent lacked a high school degree, as did 40 percent of the blacks. By contrast, only 33 percent of the white recipients lacked a high school degree. And those differences may understate the actual disparities in skills, since whites on average attend better schools than minorities.

A second difference is that minority women are less likely to get married. About 61 percent of the black women on welfare had never been married. About 40 percent of the Hispanic women had never been married and 31 percent of the whites.

Researchers are uncertain why black women marry at lower rates, but economics may play a role. William Julius Wilson, a Harvard sociologist, has argued that high rates of unemployment among black men makes them less appealing as potential spouses. Shaw, the Florida Republican, has proposed spending $2 billion over the next five years to raise the employment and marriage rates of welfare fathers.

A third difference is that minority women have larger families. Just 20 percent of white welfare recipients had more than two children, the Census data show. But the figure for blacks and Hispanics was nearly twice as high, 38 percent. Large families make it harder to find child care and reduce the economic rewards of working, since baby-sitting bills are higher.

A fourth explanation focuses on geography. The Census data show 64 percent of black recipients lived in Census tracts where at least a fifth of the population was poor. The figure for Hispanic recipients was also very high, 55 percent. But for whites it was just 21 percent.

That not only suggests that black and Hispanic people live farther from jobs. It may also mean they are less likely to have accumulated the work experience that many employers prize. "A lot of the people who have been on the rolls for the longest period of time have no one to vouch for them," said Bruce Katz, an expert on central cities at the Brookings Institution, a Washington research organization.

A fifth disadvantage can be seen in the Census data. Minority recipients started out poorer. About 74 percent of black and 72 percent of Hispanic recipients spent the entire year in poverty, compared with 63 percent of whites. Given broader income trends, it follows that white recipients may also find it easier to turn to more prosperous relatives for help.

Among the unknowns is whether the racial imbalance will grow or diminish. "The big question is whether this is who leaves first, or who leaves ever," said Christopher Jencks, a Harvard sociologist. Like some others, Jencks warns that "the more black and Hispanic the program becomes, the more political pressure there is to cut back."

Then again, he notes, "most people already thought that it was all black and Hispanic. So it may not make as much difference as you might at first think."


December 20, 2007 1:49 PM


So how about that date??  I am lonely.



 MARS said:
Bartlettman you have been playing the racist card with every post you have made so far on here, who are you fooling, you have a joy and thrill making racist jokes and will do anything to get under someone's skin
January 9, 2008 11:08 AM  


Guilty!!  Now admit that you and most other blacks are as well.
January 9, 2008 11:38 AM
 

AMAZED said:

I HAVE TO AGREE - I KNOW MORE BLACKS THAT HATE WHITE - THAN WHITES WHO DISLIKE BLACKS. BUT THE IGNORATE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SEEMS TO THINK THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN BE RACIST ARE "WHITE". AND THESE IDIOT DEMOCRATES GO RIGHT ALONG WITH IT.  

AS FAR AS THE  "occupational privilege tax" FOR WORKING IN SHELBY COUNTY...
I WOULD SUGGEST "occupational hazzard pay".  
January 9, 2008 11:57 AM
 

AMAZED said:

I HAVE TO AGREE - I KNOW MORE BLACKS THAT HATE WHITE - THAN WHITES WHO DISLIKE BLACKS. BUT THE IGNORATE MAINSTREAM MEDIA SEEMS TO THINK THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN BE RACIST ARE "WHITE". AND THESE IDIOT DEMOCRATES GO RIGHT ALONG WITH IT.  

AS FAR AS THE  "occupational privilege tax" FOR WORKING IN SHELBY COUNTY...
I WOULD SUGGEST "occupational hazzard pay".  
January 9, 2008 11:59 AM
 

gmoney2u said:

"They include possible discrimination by employers or by landlords in neighborhoods near jobs. In addition, unpublished data from the Census Bureau, prepared for The New York Times, suggest that minority recipients were significantly more disadvantaged than their white counterparts when the rolls peaked in 1994."
"There's no question that stereotyping will expand. Before, it was misinformation. It might even now go to codify the stereotype. And people don't consider the National School Lunch Program, which feeds millions of low-income school children as part of the welfare system. But it is and, again, Whites are the primary beneficiaries. Compared to the 17 percent of recipients who were Black, 75 percent of the children receiving reduced or free lunches are White. Whites also receive the majority of food stamps, Medicaid and Medicare assistance, housing subsidies and veterans' benefits provided by the government "
Across the board, in nearly every category, Whites, not Blacks, comprise the majority of Americans on the public dole. But why, despite the overwhelming evidence that suggests otherwise, does the negative stereotype stubbornly cling to Blacks? "[Because of] the legacy of racism," says Dr. Berry, "the definition of us as the 'other,' the negative. So that when you think of something negative in society, you think of Black people. When you think of something positive, you think of White people."
It's something like 38% white / 37% black. Blacks make up 12% of the U.S. population. While there are more whites on welfare than blacks, the percentage of the black population on welfare is greater than the percentage of the white population on welfare
You will hear this argument there are more white people on welfare than blacks - and they are right.
What they fail to understand is that PERCENTAGE of black people on welfare is higher that white people. Because blacks are only about 14% of the total population.
But percentage wise there are more BLACKS on welfare than whites. - it's a fact
January 9, 2008 12:03 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Amazed! "NOT!!" The only thing you know is that more blacks admit it and your friends lie about it!!
January 9, 2008 12:05 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Amazed...

I may run for county mayor, can I count on your vote?
January 9, 2008 12:06 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

My source was the NY times, whats yours?
January 9, 2008 12:09 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

"The U.S. Census Bureau"
Computed by Arthur Hu
Urban Social Security + Public Assistance income per household

White    $2312
Black    $2016
NatAm    $1785
Hispanic $1557
Asian    $1457
Whites have the highest, Asians lowest amount of SS+PA per
household.
Surveys show that racial attitudes are the most important reason behind white opposition to welfare programs. Political issues, such as crime and welfare, are viewed as "coded" issues as they stimulate white Americans' anti-black feelings without explicitly raising racial discrimination. Biased politicians and the MEDIA can implicitly associate blacks with crimes and laziness. Negative perceptions of blacks have greater influences on whites' preferences about welfare, rather than economic self-interest, individualism, liberal/conservative ideology, or views about the poor.
Now Bartlettman don't think that I don't believe your artical but I want to make the point to stop finger pointing and become a player in the game of helping the situation not just standing on the sideline running your mouth name calling like a child that's insecure with himself!!!
January 9, 2008 12:38 PM
 

DOVER said:

gmoney, Whine, whine, whine! you're very good at calling others racist when you prove in your text that you are one of the biggest racist. With that said, I'm sure you'd be the first to deny race is a factor in any of the following!


NAACP - No explanation needed. (RACIST ORGANIZATION FOR BLACKS? OH YES!)

Affirmative Action - (Which was formed to see that blacks get a job no matter their qualifications, no matter their education) before a white person ...because of skin color.  (JOB MARKET FORCED TO HIRE BLACKS? OH YES!)

United Negro College fund. (AN ORGANIZATION FORMED BY AND FOR BLACKS? OH YES!)

BET TV Channel? (A BLACK OWNED CHANNEL FOR BLACK ENTERTAINMENT? OH YES!)

Ms. Black America Pageant? (A RACIST PAGEANT FOR BLACK FEMALES ONLY? OH YES!)

Ironic how some whine and toss the word discrimination around but can't admit to it themselves.

Racism exists in the minds of people who think they are owed something,  looking for a freebie, an easy way out, and a reason to do what they shouldn’t do! Live without demanding someone owes you anything for HISTORY!  I’ll add, not all blacks whine and play the race card. Many work hard and look at the whiners for what they are……….whiners!!! Need cheese???? By all means get it and stop your pathetic whining!
January 9, 2008 1:08 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

the amount paid per household means little. The real measure is the percentage. If  18% of the population is black, then 18% of the people on welfare should be black. If 70% of the population is white then 70% of the people on welfare should be white.   This is not the case.

Also interesting is that the percentage of withs is dropping...blacks and hispanics.....rising.....

what does this mean...



pointing at you money......
January 9, 2008 1:13 PM
 

READY TO GO said:

Well I can say this from my many travels...I hate racism.  I try so hard to raise my kids not to see color and praise the Lord they don't.  But the bad thing is that living here, most of the black in the mall, grocery store or just anywhere when you smile at someone and they don't smile back or they run you over and don't say excuse me and they act like we owe them something or that we are just in the way.  So it is hard being here with a more african american population and trying to keep telling my kids well you just always do the right thing and as long as it is within yourself you live at peace.  So not everyone white is the problem but yet that is the way it feels living here in Memphi.
January 9, 2008 1:14 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

::::::: Rolling Eyes ::::::::  Thank you Dover for pointing out a few things.  Gmoney loves to taunt us as racist when the true racist on here is him.

Bartlettman, I didn't know we were lovers either.....come on my phantom lover, let's do lunch!  LOL  
January 9, 2008 1:18 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

As of this minute, i will no longer post anything with racial overtones
January 9, 2008 1:22 PM
 

DOVER said:

mnshadow, I was going to post on AC's (lie in the dirt with dogs and you get fleas) speech but gmoney puts a real spin on everything that was hard to overlook. I stand by my statement that I'm sure he (or is it a she?) doesn't have a problem with the things programs, organizations, etc that I pointed out. Watch gmoney come back with a yes, BUT it's the white folks  fault that blacks had to start their own beauty pageant. Sheesh what a joke!
January 9, 2008 1:25 PM
 

AMAZED said:

WELL SAID - DOVER
January 9, 2008 1:28 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

You got it shadow.  Can we invite gmoney?  He would love to join us, I am sure he would like a good meal.  My treat.
January 9, 2008 1:39 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Your treat?  Cool!  I'll have steak!  :- )  
January 9, 2008 1:53 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Dover @you son! First at what point in your life did you fall into to the late 1900's.Now I don't even think it needs to be addressed at all of why it's needed BUT affirmative action to a fool that has never walk in the shoes of a minority in this country probally does seem unfair.(take your silver spoon out of your mouth & stop your whing!!!) Yes I do believe everybody should get a job based on skills, knowledge, and whatever else but that's not real in the life of the minorities more than half the time(people like you would rather hire someone who looks like you than an educated blacks,hispanics, or asians!!). I see it everyday especially in my line of work here and when I was in the Military. As far as the NAACP goes! HEY! You've got the CLAN!! United Negro College Fund should not bother you because your not contributing to it anyway (formed by blacks for blacks!!) What is the problem with riaseing money to help those less fortunate in your community because your man BARTLETTMAN did say and I quote "  I would have thought crime, poor education, children born out of weblock(correct spelling is wedlock!! BARTLETTMAN), political corruption, and a generation of people on goverment assistance were the problems." So I take it you'd rather that those poverty level children who have that desire to better trhemselves be denied a good education! "BET" dam son you've got MTV VH1 hell every other station on the t.v. N.B.C., C.B.S. A.B.C., ect...... Miss Black America was brought to life because your people were always putting white women up to what a purfect woman should look like (blond haired and suffering from anarexia). "NOT!" that's why you and your boys are now like curves, big lips, coco brown skin!! No whing here son I've worked for everything i've got plus  I come from a long line of military traced as far back as the civil war(Yes we do have actual documents & letters from Washington son!!) Aunts, Uncles, Grandfathers , my dad, brother , cousins, ww2, on up till now so shut your pie hole loser!! Stop stereotyping every man of color because you've never left the south probally haven't gone outside of shelby county loser!!  
January 9, 2008 2:01 PM
 

MARS said:

As far as racism is concerns, the difference between how whites and blacks react to each other as far as is blacks are open with their racism and will let you know they do not like you, white people do it in secret because they somewhat feel that they are the victims of it, and they are getting treated unfairly I dont see how.

Now I wonder if the mayor or memphis was white and the mayor of shelby county was black, who would be at fault here for the consolidation the one putting forth the idea which is the white mayor or the one supporting and pushing further, which is the black mayor

No matter how much anyone tries to hide it, basically whites do not want to see blacks as their next door neighbors, call it racism if you want I could care less.
January 9, 2008 2:02 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

I believe in affirmative action. I think that it should be applied to all areas. Lets have a % mix in all areas that matches as closely as possible the makeup of the general population. Lets start in sports, then move to schools.

Fair is Fair

money its Klan not Clan and raising not riaseing.

just keeping it fair
January 9, 2008 2:15 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

 Ok, I will make no comments about Gmoney's spelling and grammar as he/she/it has criticized/accused me of being English major.  However, the teacher in me is chomping at the bit to get out my red pen!  LOL  

I do believe that affirmative action programs were absolutely necessary at one time.  However, I also believe the playing field has significantly leveled and those programs are no longer necessary.  People should be hired (and paid) based on merit, education and experience, not on the color of their skin.  Anything else is discrimination and racism.  

Further, any organization that would promote education, entertainment or the interests of white people only would bring the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton screaming out of the woodwork accusing racism.  So why, on the other hand, are minority only organizations considered ok and necessary and not racist?  

January 9, 2008 2:38 PM
 

DOVER said:

gmoney, I've found its a waste of time to try and understand or debate with someone who dislikes themself. You blew your little sterotype mind session on me. You're out of chips!! I'm not caucasian!  My point was, and remains, that your racist, poor me,  attitude is seen not only by whites. It's seen by all races which is sad.  I'm proud of who I am, what I have worked for. I have nothing to whine about. Proven by your posts here, you have the market on whining. (I'm skipping the small minded sarcastic name calling which you must resort to in order to vent racist frustrations.) It's time for you to be proud of who you are and stop needing confirmation by organizations and blaming others because life isn't the way you want it. Life is what you make it!

I knew that your "yes, BUT" response would show up. You've proved me right on all counts so thank you!

btw - it's perfect not PURFECT!
January 9, 2008 2:48 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@Bartlettman I'm at work and trying to type in between business so I'll probally have a few mistakes but I don't mind being corrected!!!! As long as my point is understood!!!(@DOVER)
January 9, 2008 2:48 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Dover, can I count on your vote for county mayor?  and yours gmoney? will you support me as a candidate?
January 9, 2008 2:52 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@DOVER:Dover how did you get that I don't like myself! Why? Because you may be a minority as well your obiviously the one who doesn't like himself. So what if your not caucasian! Why are you even telling me this? Why? Because you think that I think that racist only come in WHITE! You are sad!
January 9, 2008 3:06 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Gone on break!
January 9, 2008 3:07 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

obiviously ??
January 9, 2008 3:11 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

money I ran your posts through a spell check............. it blew up.....
January 9, 2008 3:33 PM
 

DOVER said:

mnshadow - you are 'right on' the money. Affirmative Action is no longer necessary. Education is the only thing needed and everyone has the opportunity for that.  Jesse and Al would be all over the news if anyone entertained the idea of a Ms. White America pageant. They suffer from the we can, you can't syndrome.

Bartlettman - yes, one vote here.


gmoney - when you're posting on blogs while you're being paid to work and give 99%  of your time to your employer, I'm sure  it's difficult to concentrate. Why did I mention I'm not caucasian? I explained myself clearly in these two sentences. I'll copy and paste it again.  "My point was, and remains, that your racist, poor me,  attitude is seen not only by whites. It's seen by all races which is sad."

Maybe you would be more quick in the comprehending department if you were not blogging on company time. (Next he/she will say, I own the business OR if whites do it, I can.)
January 9, 2008 3:44 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Dover who said that  I'm not working for myself!!! Pay more attention to me and not your racist mind!!! I guess it's ok to assume what you want when your mind is as narrow as yours!!!
January 9, 2008 3:55 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@Dover Hate is a terrible thing to be stricken with there no cure!!! I feel so sorry for you!!!
January 9, 2008 3:56 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

money, I need your vote!
January 9, 2008 3:57 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Bartlettman get a job or come and work for me!!
January 9, 2008 3:58 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Dover seems to love her/himself.....Love you right back Dover!
January 9, 2008 3:58 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

sorry not into pharmacutical sales
January 9, 2008 3:59 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

I probably spelled that wrong, oh well.....
January 9, 2008 4:00 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

MNSHADOW53 I thought you'd have learned your lesson by now! I guess not so I gonna have to tell Bartlettman you've been stepping out on him with DOVER and I don't think you want that!!
January 9, 2008 4:04 PM
 

DOVER said:

gmoney2u said:
Dover who said that  I'm not working for myself!!!


hahahaha - read my last sentence. "Next he/she will say, I own the business" OR if whites do it, I can.

If you own a business, you might take time out from blogging and invest in a program that offers spell check. For now, I hope you have a secretary that is in full charge of all correspondence.

btw - that should be, there IS no cure

CIAO! lol
January 9, 2008 4:05 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

Now that funny coming from Meth addict like yourself! I guess you know whats best for you because you'd probally OD you METH addict if that was true!!!
January 9, 2008 4:07 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

muskrat love!
January 9, 2008 4:07 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@bartlettman  Hey! I guess you were educated in memphis like the other people you try to talk about everyday ha! ha!
January 9, 2008 4:08 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

meth addict?    

what's not "whats" (that means 2 what)

PROBABLY

Now that is funny, coming from you not "now that funny"
January 9, 2008 4:11 PM
 

DOVER said:

  gmoney2u said:
MNSHADOW53 I thought you'd have learned your lesson by now! I guess not so I gonna have to tell Bartlettman you've been stepping out on him with DOVER and I don't think you want that!!

HUH???

lol...umm gmoney -  PLEASE take some of your business profits and invest in a program with spell check! Spelling, punctuation and a proper sentence could be your friends!
January 9, 2008 4:11 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@Dover missing a key stroke is cool as long as you get the idea!!! I never claimed to be the worlds fastest typer like you tender foot!!!
January 9, 2008 4:11 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Memphis not "memphis"
January 9, 2008 4:11 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

typist, not typer

world's not world

tenderfoot, not "tender foot" (that means your foot is easy to chew)
January 9, 2008 4:16 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

OMG  SPELL CHECK   SPELL CHECK    SPELL CHECK
January 9, 2008 4:16 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@ Bartlettman considering how much you hate Memphis I thought you'd of all people would like that lower case deal my bad!!
January 9, 2008 4:18 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

this is fun!


Come back money...You are a riot!

January 9, 2008 4:19 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

now explain "typer" and "now that funny"
January 9, 2008 4:21 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

mssing a ky strke is col a lng s ou et te ide

you meant like that??
January 9, 2008 4:23 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Think he is about to stroke out?

sorry "thnk he be bout to strk ut?"
January 9, 2008 4:25 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@MNSHADOW53 Now I know you didn't OMG me!! You are showing your true colors(Hot Pink, Pink, and more Pink!!) I new you , B, & your Dover had some kind of strange lov for each other!!! BFF's Yea right!!!  
January 9, 2008 4:38 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

it's "knew" not "new"

it's "love" not "lov"
January 9, 2008 4:42 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

this is to easy....the man has lost it.    


January 9, 2008 4:46 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@Bartlettman So what your telling me is you've never missed a keystroke but then again your soft skinny fingers probally just fall right into place on the keys right limp wrist!! SPELL CHECK!!
January 9, 2008 4:46 PM
 

DOVER said:

gmoney2u said:
@Dover missing a key stroke is cool as long as you get the idea!!! I never claimed to be the worlds fastest typer like you tender foot!!!

"tender foot"??? why gmoney - I'm disappointed in you, such language! lol I don't see fast typing mentioned. It is improper spelling that is keeping you from making your point.




January 9, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

I do not miss key  in every post.... like some people.  

Are you jealous?  You love me, admit it, you want me.
January 9, 2008 4:49 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@Bartlettman you are just too dam serious that you can't see the humor in the miss spelled words since you keep stressing the issue!!! You and your girlfriends only could wish that was the real me SUCKERS!!!!! Sorry to kill your dreams fellas not every man of color fits your profile. Just tipical southern thinking!!!
January 9, 2008 4:51 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

oh and money it is PROBABLY not probally  (pro bally, a bally that is paid)
January 9, 2008 4:52 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

tipical    what does that mean??

damn not dam ( a dam stops water)
January 9, 2008 4:54 PM
 

gmoney2u said:

@ Dover Why does it take you so long to respond? Let me answer that one for you sweetheart your sitting there polishing your nails and using a dictionary at the same time just to give youself so prop as if you had a brain. Must have been bullied as a child!!  
January 9, 2008 4:55 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

you are not your

yourself not youself

"youself so prop as if you had a brain"  What?
January 9, 2008 4:59 PM
 

DOVER said:

My intent was to voice my opinion about consolidation and leave. Then came gmoney! lol  He started off calling others meth addicts, racists and now he has moved on to tender foot, skinny fingers and limp wrist. HOUSTON, gmoney has a problem! lol

later....do come back gmoney, it's been ummmm real/fun!!!

January 9, 2008 4:59 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Bartlett Man a Contestant on ABC's "Dance War"
Contributor: Adrienne Phillips
Email: aphillips@myeyewitnessnews.com
Last Update: 4:33 pm  

Print Story | Email Story    

Maxx Reed, 18, of Bartlett An 18 year-old ballet dancer/dance instructor is one of 12 contestants competing on the new ABC show, "Dance War: Bruno vs. Carrie Ann".

Maxx Reed of Bartlett began training in dance when he was 14 years-old. Reed performs in the New Ballet ensemble and a sub-culture hip hop group. He also teaches jazz and hip hop dancing.

Watch Maxx compete Monday nights at 7:00 p.m. on ABC.


Hey...he is using my moniker


(nickname to you money)
January 9, 2008 5:02 PM
 

Bartlettman said:

Maybe he likes talking about such things because....well, he is hiding something.
January 9, 2008 5:03 PM
 

DOVER said:

 gmoney2u said:
@ Dover Why does it take you so long to respond? Let me answer that one for you sweetheart your sitting there polishing your nails and using a dictionary at the same time just to give youself so prop as if you had a brain. Must have been bullied as a child!!  

"so prop"???? lol again, HUH?

Add sweetheart to the list..although you typed "so prop" and  didn't figure out where a period should go, I give you credit for spelling sweetheart correctly.......lmao
January 9, 2008 5:05 PM
 

BARTLETTMAGS said:

Havent you noticed that the policy I told you about is coming into effect, take a look at sams club, costco's you can have a million dollars, if you are not a member, you cant buy or sell anything, then you have the FED-EX slowly incorporating the mark of the beast, you cant clock in unless they scan your fingerprints, get that 1000 or million years mentality out of your head, from now out of your head,
January 9, 2008 6:35 PM
 

MARS said:

BARTLETTMAGS, dont you know this country is trying to do their best to control our lives, your life is controlled if you work for someone, you get up when they want you to get up, you eat when they tell you to eat, you are off work, when they say the job is done, (hints the word overtime),
January 9, 2008 6:49 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

A friend sent this to me.....sobering thought.....welfare debacle....

CATCHING PIGS

THIS IS TRULY THOUGHT PROVOKING. TAKE THE TIME TO READ IT AND SEND IT ON TO THOSE THAT YOU THINK ARE WORTH SENDING TO.

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the Prof noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt.

The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.

In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked:

"Do you know how to catch wild pigs?"

The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said that it was no joke.

"You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.

When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.

The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again.

You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught.

Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity."

The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax cuts, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.

One should always remember two truths:

1) There is no such thing as a free lunch

2) And you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.

If you see that all of this wonderful government 'help' is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends.  

If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email.

But God help you when the gate slams shut!
January 9, 2008 8:42 PM
 

Datruth4u said:

MNSHADOW53 do you ever go to sleep! Go watch the news or do something!   Hey teacher correct yourself!
"Ok, I will make no comments about Gmoney's spelling and grammar as he/she/it has criticized/accused me of being English major.  However, the teacher in me is chomping at the bit to get out my red pen!  LOL"
I would assume you meant " of being an English major" " chomping at bit to get my red pen" What?  You must be one of those Memphis teachers your always raggin on! The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!!
January 9, 2008 9:29 PM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Dat....that would be "you're always ragging on"  
January 10, 2008 8:19 AM
 

DOVER said:

Datruth4u - your moniker reminds me of the TV advertisement for MO MONEY! Just a thought but if you changed your moniker to Thetruth4u someone might take your English corrections seriously.
January 10, 2008 8:40 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

How in the world do people who can not speak or right properly think they will get ahead in this world. I was once conducting an interview with a UM graduate, one that claimed on his resume to have graduated with honors, that started the answer to every question with "well it bes like dis"

Asked me if I hired him.
January 10, 2008 8:45 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

I do not know what is worse, Mo'Money or some of the commercials for the local used care lots.
January 10, 2008 8:47 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

No to consolidation!!

Just getting it back on topic.
January 10, 2008 8:48 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Thank you Bartlettman.....I needed the reminder.  What did you think of the Catching Pigs story I was sent?
January 10, 2008 9:04 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

loved it
January 10, 2008 9:25 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

scary huh?  see it happening already
January 10, 2008 9:27 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Now if we can just catch a flying monkey......and teach it to spell and properly form a sentence.
January 10, 2008 9:30 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

It is, and it has happened. You have a carry permit?
January 10, 2008 9:31 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

Not yet........
January 10, 2008 9:33 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

you need to, well worth it. I am waiting on mine to get back, but it's a good feeling that soon I can protect myself.   Good place to go is TopBrass in Millington (very good ol boy).
January 10, 2008 9:43 AM
 

mnshadow53 said:

I found the website....will check it out
January 10, 2008 9:58 AM
 

Datruth4u said:

@BARTLETTMAN You are a Good ol boy yourself I can only assume by 99.9% of your racist comments!!
January 10, 2008 10:14 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

Please explain, I have never posted a racist comment here.  Is "good ol boy" racist?
January 10, 2008 10:26 AM
 

outspoken said:

bartlettman:  

got my permit to carry.  went to summer ave station on July 5 and went for fingerprints on July 6.  the permit arrived on Nov. 11th or 12th.  so it takes some time .
January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
 

Bartlettman said:

cool.  I have heard anywhere from 30 days to 120 days.
January 10, 2008 11:42 AM
 

AMBER85 said:

 gmoney2u said:
Dover @you son! First at what point in your life did you fall into to the late 1900's.Now I don't even think it needs to be addressed at all of why it's needed BUT affirmative action to a fool that has never walk in the shoes of a minority in this country probally does seem unfair.(take your silver spoon out of your mouth & stop your whing!!!) Yes I do believe everybody should get a job based on skills, knowledge, and whatever else but that's not real in the life of the minorities more than half the time(people like you would rather hire someone who looks like you than an educated blacks,hispanics, or asians!!). I see it everyday especially in my line of work here and when I was in the Military. As far as the NAACP goes! HEY! You've got the CLAN!! United Negro College Fund should not bother you because your not contributing to it anyway (formed by blacks for blacks!!) What is the problem with riaseing money to help those less fortunate in your community because your man BARTLETTMAN did say and I quote "  I would have thought crime, poor education, children born out of weblock(correct spelling is wedlock!! BARTLETTMAN), political corruption, and a generation of people on goverment assistance were the problems." So I take it you'd rather that those poverty level children who have that desire to better trhemselves be denied a good education! "BET" dam son you've got MTV VH1 hell every other station on the t.v. N.B.C., C.B.S. A.B.C., ect...... Miss Black America was brought to life because your people were always putting white women up to what a purfect woman should look like (blond haired and suffering from anarexia). "NOT!" that's why you and your boys are now like curves, big lips, coco brown skin!! No whing here son I've worked for everything i've got plus  I come from a long line of military traced as far back as the civil war(Yes we do have actual documents & letters from Washington son!!) Aunts, Uncles, Grandfathers , my dad, brother , cousins, ww2, on up till now so shut your pie hole loser!! Stop stereotyping every man of color because you've never left the south probally haven't gone outside of shelby county loser!!  

I was only waiting to say something back when you posted something else ignorant!!  Yes i know what its like to be a minority....umm...I live in Memphis!!!  I know exactly what its like.....she crappy thing is that I dont get a college fund, my own pagean, and my own telivision station for being one!  If im not mistaken it was a black woman who was first runner up in the Miss America Pageant this year....she was from TX I do believe....I saw several black women in that pageant!!!  If we decided to open up a scholarship fund for whites only....black ppl would raise hell....Its not that we have a problem with your scholarship fund but if we did something like that....Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be all over us! As for MTV and VH1???  I see many black ppl on both and every other station you mentioned....I have yet to see anything for white ppl on BET!!!!!!  Ok so your point that your trying to make means nothing b/c I see no discrimination there!!!!  I serioulsy think its dumb that im even on here saying anything back that doesnt even pertain to the subject of consolidation but im so tired of being white and discriminated against and being called racist!!!

January 11, 2008 2:47 PM
 

DOVER said:

 AMBER85  all that I presented (and you backed up) are facts. Just as I predicted, gmoney came back with his/her 'status quo' excuses.
January 12, 2008 8:25 AM
 

BartlettMags said:

I would just like to set the record straight here for one moment.  It seems that in his frustration at fighting a losing battle, gmoney took it upon himself to post under my name on the last post by BARTLETTMAGS (note the grammar and all caps, defintely not me).  You see while you were impersonating me and attempting to defile my name, I was on a plane flying to my grandmother's funeral, so shame on you, you opportunistic pig.  By the way, I know it was him because when you type in the name rather than just use your signed in name, it keeps track of you and others can too.  I found that every post it led me to was, in fact gmoney.  Tired of being wrong all of the time?
January 13, 2008 4:27 PM
 

disturbed said:

Now,I did go up on the mountain top to look east toward Memphis and I saw a great cloud of poverty and crime and the devil sitting on his throne on that cloud.He was pretending to be god and talking with the mayor telling him how great he is and to enlist A.C. into his plan to spread his evil intentions and corruption.Beneath that cloud I could see a great battle occuring between good and evil,Memphians were suffering much pain because the city has a curse upon it and it's streets are no longer safe for women or children.                   Now my lord has chosen me personally to destroy the devil someday,that is my destiny and I wish it could be done today to stop the misery there but all I know now is that in time time the devil will be before me at the top of the mountain  and I will destroy him with a lightning bolt and everyone will hear a crack of thunder!I to then will leave this .  world to join my savior.Hate will no longer exist and love will grow abundantly  like flowers in the   springtime.
January 16, 2008 1:14 AM
 

Iceman said:

I fail to understand how or why Herenton and Wharton believe that consolidation is the answer to the financial situation in Memphis/Shelby County. Even if consolidation were to happen, there would still be the residential tax base with the same lack of an industrial tax base to relieve the deficit and overall tax burden of property owners. Maybe if I had some of what these two mental giants are smok'in, I could possibly begin to understand.
January 16, 2008 10:20 AM
 

DOVER said:

I just heard that AC made a wise decision to cancel the trip with big bad Willie to discuss consolidation with Gov. Bredesen today. I hope AC (who used to have my full respect) has seen being Willie's water boy isn't going to do anything but damage his reputation. I'm interested to hear what Willie's excuse will be as to why the meeting was canceled. He does like to be the 'boss' and I'm sure he won't like having to admit that he doesn't have a firm grip on AC. AC needs to stand up, be a man, not a pawn,  and say NO to Willie and consolidation!
January 16, 2008 12:10 PM
 

russell said:

This is their solution to reacquire the tax base King Willie lost when he told people to leave town and they did,in groves,including business revenue.My hope is that Mayor Wharton (a fine man) will not get dragged into this masked form of communism by King Willies jargon, and in a "strang" way "disturbed" is right.
January 16, 2008 5:03 PM
 

disturbed said:

Thank You,Russel.You know my therapist charges 160 dollars and my psychiatrist charges 225 dollars an hour and after an hour they get up and leave the room altho I have much more to say and I have more money and pay my debts.You listen for free,How Sweet is that?                   Also how stupid is it to build a forum for a bunch of millionairs at the expence of alot of hard working taxpayers who can hardly afford to pay their city and county tax bills especially when the sales pitch for building the pyramid was hopes to attracting a N.B.A. team.Huge tax hikes by the city and the county last year and they still  need more of the tax payers money.FOR what? Crime in Memphis is out of control and to fix the problem and the mayor will tell the citizens to pay more money then as his term ends the problem is still there.Now they want to run to Nashville for help,I suppose.Their is nothing the governor can do to overcome the waste,fraud,and abuse of their bad leadership,spending like drunking sailors.Dignity, honor and fairness is gone and replaced corruption,greed and minority participation.The best thing that could happen for Memphis at this point in time is for the mayor to step down and let the good people of Memphis start over and try to overcome the mistakes of the past.
January 17, 2008 12:47 PM
 

tomguleff said:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=77827759676&ref=mf

No Consolidation of Memphis and Shelby County Governments
May 15, 2009 11:29 AM
Anonymous comments are disabled

This Blog

Post Calendar

<January 2008>
SuMoTuWeThFrSa
303112345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
272829303112
3456789

Syndication

Powered by Community Server, by Telligent Systems
Inergize Digital Media This site powered by Inergize Digital Media. The views expressed here do not necessarily reflect the views of this station.