I wouldnt call it a hate crime, I would say its capital murder for killing a government employee and he should receive at least 40 or more to life in prison, because he killed a man, and then dismembered the body,

It would be nice if they would divulge the evidence that makes this a hate crime.

i think that its ridiculous that he can take a man's life and not have to give up his and get a weak sentencing of 15 years. a plea deal don't mean a thing...what he did was wrong and probably was a hate crime. he should receive a full life sentence

I think it's a shame. To take a mans life because of the color of his skin. GOD made everyone, and if he hadn't wanted black people on this earth, he wouldn't havemade them! mom of 2

Would someone please explain to me what a hatecrime is.

@E.O.O. Don't be an A!@# munch! Let's not play stupid! You people kill me with this bull!@#!2 everytime the shoe is on the other foot you go brain dead but yet you all scream "I'm not racist!" Please save that crap for your dinner latter tonight! P.S. I don't care what you say your all a bunch of racist trying to cover it up with wanna be smart phrases, quotes, paste, and half a!@# facts!

gmoney - On a serious note....if your point is valid, I' would like to know what would you call it when a black targets and kills a white person?

Excuse me gmoney2u,did I pull ypur chain?Of course leave it to you to say the 'R' word.Leave it to you to call names.I never said I wasn't a racist.Fact is,I'm just as much a racist as you are,but nonetheless,I haven't got an answer to my question.What is a hate crime?NEXT!

Gmoney-

I'm with Dover- what IS it called when black people target white people?

If we would all just admit (to ourselves and others) that we are all racist (at least to a degree), then maybe we could start to work things out. I suggested in a different blog that if we would all be honest with each other, say "You're right. I DON'T like you. This is why..." then maybe we could figure out how to change things (including ourselves) to make this world a better place.

But it's becoming dangerous to voice an opinion or even breathe because of worry that someone might be offended. My idiot neighbor was blasting his music yesterday (disturbing me in my home) yet I was afraid to call him and ask him to turn it down. Why? Because he might be "offended" and come over and shoot me. Sad. Sad. Sad. that the world has come to this.

gmoney...you now have 3 people asking you the same question.

IF you don't type an answer, you've admitted blacks killing whites is a hate crime.

Thank you in advance, because I know you won't answer.

Since Gmoney's busy...

Hate crimes (also known as bias motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her membership in a certain social group, usually defined by race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation. Hate crimes differ from conventional crime because they are not directed simply at an individual, but are meant to cause fear and intimidation in an entire group or class of people.

So... if three black thugs break through my home's door and rob me at gunpoint because I'm white and they ASSUME therefore I'm rich, is that a hate crime? I would say yes. WHY? Because I am constantly targeted around Memphis for handouts because people assume that I have money. Now, I drive an older vehicle with a cracked windshield, I wear no jewelry, I live in an older, smaller, modestly priced house, and I shop at Walmart. With those facts in mind, is it safe for me to assume that I'm targeted because of my race? You betcha.

Catgirl - gmoney would never answer that question because he doesn't want to admit we are right..which he did admit by not responding...so well explained!  

If we think about it, and use that definition above, ALL crimes are HATE crimes.

Catgirl, you gave an excellent definition of a hate crime.  But I believe everyone is missing the point here.  Dale Mardis used racists epitaths towards Mickey Wright and was even threatened by Dale Mardis.  Other code enforcement officers visited Dale Mardis buisnesses but the only black Code Enforcement Officer who visited him was savagely murdered.  That is what makes this a hate crime.  If a person breaks into your home you can not say it is a hate crime if the victim or the victimizer are of different races. If you live in a location where you are afraid of your neighbor you probably should consider moving.   I agree with coreyology, a man was killed  and dismembered and the punishment should fit the crime.

Catgirl, what I meant was people get burgularized all of the time.  You would have to prove that a person commited an offense against you because of your race or affliations.  In the case of Mikey Wright. Dale Mardis made racist comments and threats.  But if you are really afraid of your neighbor you should move.  Neighbors should get along because you never know when you need the others help.  Neighbors should respect EACH other.

Catgirl, what I meant was people get burgularized all of the time.  You would have to prove that a person commited an offense against you because of your race or affliations.  In the case of Mikey Wright. Dale Mardis made racist comments and threats.  But if you are really afraid of your neighbor you should move.  Neighbors should get along because you never know when you need the others help.  Neighbors should respect EACH other.

Would John Wilkes Booth killing President Lincoln be considered a hate crime?Would me loving Catgirl be considered a love crime?LOL

1. I didn't say I didn't think this murder wasn't a hate crime. I do. But, I think that the opposite end of the spectrum needs to be looked at. Tell me- when I go out in Memphis, minding my own business, and a black man comes up to me in a parking lot full of all different kinds of people yelling "hey, white lady, can I have some money?" (and this has happened) should I think that he probably targeted me for a handout because of my skin color? You betcha. Wonder why he did? Could it be because people automatically assume that I have money because I'm white and I work? And again, when my house gets burglarized because thugs/thieves have scoped out the neighborhood and say to themselves (whether they admit it or not) "hey, let's rob the white girl, she's probably got good stuff" can I think it's a hate crime because I'm white? you betcha.

2. I'm not afraid of my neighbors. I live in a nice neighborhood. But, it is getting to the point where even the most rational of people can be pushed to stupid behavior. It is safer to assume that everyone will go "postal" in my opinion.

3. Bottom line? I find the state of the world sad.

4. EOO- Oh. So now you love me? All I had to do was insult you and now you love me? You men like to be abused, huh? LOL.

Hmmmm seems that gmoney NEVER likes to ANSWER any questions.  He just likes to throw stupid stuff out there and run.  LOL He might be out paying cash for another BMW.......  

Shadow!!! You're here! Glad to know you survived last night.

Thanks Catgirl.....actually got back in town just in time for the tornadoes!  

In the Dales case it was a hate crime because he hates blacks and killed one because he was black. He made it clear several times before to the code enforcements that he didnt want a black man at his property.

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In the Dales case it was a hate crime because he hates blacks and killed one because he was black.


Dale Mardis a white male who admitted to killing and dismembering Mickey Wright a black man, was a Code Enforcement Officer for Shelby County.    "The body was burned and whatever was left after the burning was dismembered and placed in derelict vehicles which were later crushed,"


In the description of Mardis it say White his picture is white how do you get this wrong.

Murder of any person is not funny or a trivial matter.  You proven to be a complete and utter asinine fool, to make such indignant remarks showing your lack of base to be such a flagrant idiot in the admission of a mans death.


If you could only see how this keep hatred alive giving it a new home daily.

Yes, there is something about being afraid of your neighbors.

Serial killers tend to be white, heterosexual males in their twenties and thirties who are sexually dysfunctional and have low self-esteem. Their methodical rampages are almost always sexual in nature.

Their killings are usually part of an elaborate fantasy that builds to a climax at the moment of their murderous outburst. Serial killers generally murder strangers with cooling off periods between each crime.

See look at the post times on Static, He will do something on a mass scale one day.Stay tuned folks.

@Dover I never responded to your ? because I do have more things to do other than sit and blog! Oh and mnshadow53 you just wish that you could ride with me so stop the hate and just get your money right so you can do the same. For your imfo MNSHADOM if you did'nt blog so much you could learn a thing or too as well as I have like paying cash for your car(Thank you Dave Ramsey). Some of us are business minded and like to make money not let money make us!!! Don't go broke trying to pay a car note!

Well gmoney - thanks for explaining why you kept dodging my question 3 days ago. You're here now so.......are you going to answer?

You still have 3 people asking you the same question.

Don't you agree that blacks (targeting) killing whites is a hate crime?

Hey Dover, gmoney is not capable of answering a question....all he can do is try to inflame and start arguments.  Also, he lies, so why waste your time.  He, Static and Mr. Whitey are basically of the same ilk.  P.S. gmoney it is info, not imfo.  

mnshadow....I know gmoney will never answer. I just had to point out that he didn't have time to answer me but,  he had time to post more 'bs' to you. I think Static was African American at one time...same MO. (where he lives, what he does and the copying an pasting that he loves to do.)  I ignored him then as much as possible. I'll continue to because to be honest with you, I can't make sense of most of his posts anyway.  

Let me clarify....I think he used  'African American' as his moniker on other blogs.

No worries Dover.....you have a private message.  

okay got it........hope you get the reply.

 mnshadow53 , Please stop being mean to the poor ole blacks

Dover, you are absolutely right.Static was African American on other blogs.

Is this how Memphis really is? Is this city racist? Crime happens. There is black on black, black on white, white on white, and white on balck crime, as well as all of the other ethnicities in the world. Crime knows no color.  Catgirl many people get robbed or burgularized but if you feel that a hate crime was committed against you then report it.  But I have had people of all ethnicites "beg me for money."  Do I consider this to be because of my race? No, all money is green.

Mrwhitey - After reading his posts, it was pretty obvious that if he was not the person using the moniker African American on other blogs...he should be.

ruserious - Let me correct you and answer you. This is how Memphis 'has become'. It is truly sad because I lived for many years in Memphis and it's not the same City it once was. There are many contributing factors to the racial divide but a very BIG one is...many problems are fueled by the mayor of the city. For now, I don't see anything getting better.

ruserious ,
 Just hang around long enough, You'll change your tune. At least you better if you want to survive. Good luck.

@Dover First let us ask what is the definition of a hate crime? So if you know the the ansr to that ? then you have your ansr you don't need me to give you an ansr to a ? you know the ansr to. Let's not stray away from the real issue here and that's a life was took simply because of race & this man should be held responsible for his actions! P.S. MNSHADOW53 you just love you some GMONEY don't you!

gmoney - nice try on avoiding the question but you failed at it.  As I stated, by not answering...you agree with me, mnshadow, catgirl, and the rest that KNOW when blacks kill whites...that's a hate crime.  ANY committing hate crimes should be held responsible but they aren't.

I read something somewhere over the weekend and it was a valid point.

What makes me most tired personally is how EVERYTHING that happens to black people, whether they do it to themselves or not, is racially motivated somehow. When the white politicians were found guilty in TN Waltz, you never, not one time, heard anyone say "I was targeted because I am white. I was framed- because I am white."

Can anyone explain that to me?

Catgirl -  As we all know, many times, the race card is just a convenient excuse.

@Dover You are a joke!!

Gmoney- sorry I have to agree with Dover on this one.

Many time the race card IS an excuse. But until that is accepted as truth by everyone (most especially by those who use it) we have a problem that can't be fixed. Admitting there is a problem is the first step in fixing it.

How DO you explain the white folks in TN Waltz NOT using the race card and the black folks using it? Obviously they weren't targeting black or white, they were targeting dishonest (which knows no color).

Are you saying that black people should be able to do WHATEVER they want, even if it means breaking the law, simply because they are black? Why are they not to be held accountable just like everyone else? WHY? THAT is the question that needs an answer.

gmoney -  awhhh gmoney, I obviously struck a nerve!  There is something to be said for this...."If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem".  The truth is not a joke. As proven time and again, you avoid answering questions that will force you to admit the truth.

Gee Dover...I think gmoney is in love with both of us!  :- )

mnshadow53 said:
Gee Dover...I think gmoney is in love with both of us!  :- )
February 11, 2008 12:37 PM

mnshadow - Why, yes, I think he is!  but..... he'll never admit that either ;-) lol

No. No. No.

I want Gmoney. Fight you for him... or just buy you a Starbucks?

No Fights!  LOL  I'll step aside CatGirl, in the interest of peace and harmony....gmoney is all yours!  

PLEASE TAKE ME CATGIRL! Catgirl,Dover, and my good friend MNSGHADOW53 I never take my precious time to ansr ? that need no ansr by the person asking the ?. We all know that any crime committed by one person on another because of color, gender, religous beliefs, etc is a hate crime no matter if it's white on black, black on white, white on latino, latino on white, asian on gays, gays on asian, and so on. Lets get it together and stop trying to mix all this other BS in this because you know as well as everybody else that this was racially motivated. So you stop playing the race card!! As if a spade is not a spade!      

Yay! Oh... wait... if you give him up that easily, maybe I want to rethink the situation myself... if he's not worth you fighting for...

Just kidding G.

Anyone would be glad to have someone with all those BMW's, right?

gmoney2u said:
PLEASE TAKE ME CATGIRL! Catgirl,Dover, and my good friend MNSGHADOW53 I never take my precious time to ansr ? that need no ansr by the person asking the ?. We all know that any crime committed by one person on another because of color, gender, religous beliefs, etc is a hate crime no matter if it's white on black, black on white, white on latino, latino on white, asian on gays, gays on asian, and so on. Lets get it together and stop trying to mix all this other BS in this because you know as well as

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gmoney - I KNEW you could answer that question correctly if you just would!  <applause>  Since I'm not a fighting kind of gal..I bowed out lol ...Catgirl won you fair and square.

G-

1. I believe I said that all crimes are hate crimes last week (Feb 5th post in this very bog). Glad someone agrees with me finally.

2. I really don't get the impression that anyone denies that this was a hate crime. I certainly don't. It was.

3. What is being asked at this point, is why are black people so quick to use the race card when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar? When we hear people say they were targeted/prosecuted because they were black, it gives the impression that they think they are not supposed to be held accountable by the same rules as everyone else. THAT is the frustrating question that noone will answer.

Catgirl - gmoney waited about 6 days to answer my question. Maybe you'll get a response next week ;-)

Dover- lol.

Oh, and Dover and Shadow? You guys can fight over Gmoney. I forgot that my heart has been taken by EOO. Can't throw him over for anyone (even Gmoney) this close to Valentine's.

Hey Catgirl....I'll solve the dilema...you take both!!! (assuming mnshadow agrees) lol

LOL Catgirl.....I may have to stick with my 157th husband!  ROTFL

Shadow- you mean Mr. Whitey? ROTFL too...

Dover- no, really, you can have Gmoney. We all need a Valentine, and I pick EOO.

Only other solution for us is if Bartlettman would come back and play with us. I miss him.

What happened to Bartlettman? Last I read he was headed towards Starbucks via Hooters.  He must have gotten  lost because I haven't seen him on the blog since.

@CATGIRL To ansr your ? Blacks have never got an even deal on no crimes & AMERICAN HISTORY shows that and you as well as everybody else with a brain know this but refuse to admit it. Blacks are targeted 8 times out of ten more than their white partners in crime and thier prosecuted more often than whites for the same crimes plus given more time for similar crimes. Powder cocaine (white man) crack (black man) Fact you get more time for the sale of crack in smaller amounts than powder cocaine.  Catgirl please don't say black people don't want to be held accountable for their actions because that's far from the truth of a real MAN not black nor white just a man period. All criminals black, white, and other refuse to go without a fight they all try every trick they can think of to get out of what's happening to them when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar!! They snitch on one another, turn info over, kill witnesses, lie, ect... Please stop putting a whole race of people in the same catagory as one another because i'm sure mexicans, asians, whites, scotts, brits, west indians, and so forth are all not the same I know this for a fact!!!  

Gmoney-

I said the fact that the word racism is yelled all the time gives the IMPRESSION that they don't want to be held accountable. When the stereotype keeps getting validated time after time, what are people SUPPOSED to think?

Yes- criminals caught all try to get out of it, but... 9/10 blacks seem to use that "r" word as a defense. Again- I cite TN Waltz- NOT ONE TIME did the words "they targeted me because I was WHITE" come out of anyone's mouth. WHY? Because they weren't targeting black or white, they were targeting the dishonest. Statistics will show if you have a larger population of one type of person versus another living in a certain area you probably WILL have more of one arrested/caught/etc.

Bottom line? If you live life the way you are supposed to- meaning don't rob, cheat, or steal, you won't have to worry about getting an even deal, or getting targeted, or getting prosecuted. Can we agree on that?

Perhaps it is time to quit whining about past injustices and focus on what is wrong with this city and country right now!  In my humble opinion, the Native Americans have a bigger gripe against us all than anyone else.  However, what is done is done, we can't change it, but as long as certain segments of the population continue to whine and cry and lay blame for everything that is wrong in their lives on things that happened over 100 years ago, they will never move forward.

cmon shadow your starting to sound like a racist.

What? Not validating an overused worn out excuse for committing crimes makes one a racist?

MNSHADOW53 if you think for one minute that the things that happened 100 yrs ago don't affect the people of today your sadly mistaken my blog buddy!!! It's hard to understand where the other side is coming from if you've never been where they've been or where they're at! Don't get fooled by all media hype because it's still far from a level playing field by far! I'm one of several young Men who have made it but it was'nt easy!

gmoney you miss my point.....if we are mired down by the past, we can never move forward.  I am not saying forget the past because those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.  I am saying don't let past injustices stop you from living TODAY.  We cannot change anything that happened 100 years ago by whining about our plight now.  We have to get off our lazy butts and do something about it.  Successful people of all colors and creeds do not sit around whining....they WORK to change their lives.  Think about it, especially successful black people.  

Do you think Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama; Bill Cosby et al sat around crying about the injustices of the past?  No way!  The same goes for white people.  Bill Gates didn’t sit around whining about his plight in life, he WORKED.  You will never see a successful crack head.  I am not saying we will all get to be millionaires, but there isn’t one of us who couldn’t, if we were willing to do what it takes!  

My grandparents came over here on a boat.  They didn’t speak English.  They had no welfare, AFDC, food stamps, interpreters and signs in their language everywhere.  They were expected to learn the language, fit in, work, and be productive Americans.  They did that.  Every able-bodied person should be off his or her butt and contributing to the society the best way they can, instead of generation after generation sitting around, bemoaning their lives and collecting a check for it!        

*Applause*

Taking a bow....and kicking my soapbox off to the side now!  :- )  

gmoney2, its not easy for most of us. Its really not. I'll say this, the harder it is to make it, the more you appreciate it once you do make it.

Dang shadow, you should have been on Green Acres right next to Mr.Douglas. That was pertnear poetry.

mnshadow - well said and keep that soapbox close because I'm sure you'll need it again. Like you, my grandparents also came to the USA with nothing. My father and his sisters didn't speak English but they asked for nothing. They learned English, worked, saved and eventually owned grocery stores, bought land and did very well.

Over the years, I've seen more and more people who are willing and wanting to be a part of a 'freebie generation' and it's to he11 with working for a living.  

GMoney- Another question.

Since you have had to work hard to "make it," tell me, do you appreciate what you have and what you had to go through to do so?

When you look around at the fruits of your labors do you feel good about yourself?

I would imagine that the answer to both questions is yes.

Now. If you had not had to work hard, would you appreciate what you got? Would you feel good about yourself?

I would imagine that the answer to both those questions is no.  

What can we do to help everyone be able to know how it feels to work hard for what they have in order to appreciate it and to feel good about themselves? Teach them to quit looking for excuses as to WHY they can't do those very things? Teach them that said excuses will no longer be tolerated, whether they have any merit or not?

Hey Whitey, just call me Oliver Wendell Mnshadow!  :- )