Here we go again....2 children who have not been taught that they can disagree/fight about something without one pulling out a gun and shooting the other.  This all goes back to what Memphis has become....a lawless cesspool.  Parents who are drugged out shells of what they should be cannot possibly teach their children to be productive, useful members of society.  Children who hunger for guidance and care anywhere they can find it will turn to gangs when there is nothing at home for them.  Gang members act like they care, giving these kids the only attention they get, but are in actuality only using them for their own ends.  The vicious circle just keeps rolling on.  When will it stop?  I don't know if it can.  I do know that unless we get some strong, ethical, and honest leaders to step up, not just in government, but in the churches and the civic organizations, there will be nothing left in Memphis but the criminals and the dead.  

His gun obviously had too many bullets in it.  

I am sure he had a good reason for bustin' a cap on him.  As a matter of fact I am sure this incident shows the excellent impulse control of all involved.  

I am sure actions were carefully considered and were worth it.

Why wasn’t this type crime commonplace years ago? Families could leave their doors unlocked and not fear for their lives. Children could go to school and not fear being shot. People could walk the streets and shop withoug fear of being killed by  thugs.  There are ‘bad seeds’ but what is going on with children, teens and adults today is, for the most part,  by choice. Females need to stop birthing babies that are only wanted because they bring forth another SSI check. Men need to use protection to stop the inbred mentality that has become a part of society. Children live in an environment that does not teach them respect for the law, respect for others, or even respect for themselves. They are living like a bunch of wild animals, killing each other over nothing. Parents can blame themselves, not society!

This is just the results of the culture of violence and hypocrisy that this country is about inn these days. Kids are not being raised to respect themselves let alone others. Kids find no encouragement, confidence, nor love on any level of their development. We as Christians need to step up and be an example. We must speak out in the communities and let everyone know that the pimps, gangs, and drug dealers will not take our kids from us! They will not be more of an influence on our kids than we are. Parents need to be held accountable for sending "criminals" into our schools. Law enforcement needs to step up because these guns that are making their way into our kids hands are coming from somewhere. We need to stop being reactive and start being proactive. It may make people mad and ruffle some feathers, but if aggressive law enforcement targeting certain communities (black) is going to save our kids lives, then I am all for it! We can't blame the "white man" anymore. Not with Mr. Obama about to win the Democratic presidential nomination! Who shot that black kid today...another black kid! Do I have an answer to this madness, probably not. But I do know that this society values image and entertainment over character and integrity, which is a great majority of the problem. How else can you explain a crackhead winning a Grammy?!

Why don't the adults just get control back from the CHILDREN, What are metal detectors without control? Parents get control of your children. Teachers get control of your students. Kids don't have consequences anymore.You want to know why your kids are out of control?
They control you.
You don't control them.

East Memphis,,move to Baltimore, Harlem, Hell City,   you will be with your own kind

What needs to happen, but never will, is instead of getting suspended or a tap on the wrist, there needs to be stiffer consiquences placed on your babies actions.
I call them babies because they are treated as such. These are young "MEN" and women trying to act like adults, and actions like these, they should be treated as adults. This should carry the harshest of reactions.
You people go to Little Rock and march, you go to Jenna and march, but WHAT do you do when this happens? NOTHING. Black on black crime, you don't do jack about it. That is a shame, a real bad shame.
And the mayor that you think is so wonderful, what is his reactions? NOTHING again.

You people need to get you some education of your own, stop letting your kids walk all over you. Grow up, get a grip on reality. Put down your drugs! Pay attention.

"   alabamapolesmoker said:
East Memphis,,move to Baltimore, Harlem, Hell City,   you will be with your own kind"
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Why move it's coming here?  

This is a sad day. As a young teenager myself I am appauled at how now my generation is using weapons to solve issues instead of talking or trying to work the problem out. This is very sad. I have myself been shocked to hear about how the teens in my generation are now turning to violence more often. I myself when I have a problem I prefer that I walk away. If Dr. King were still around he would be upset with how the teens are acting towards each other. I dont understand why we have gangs? Is it to be different okay so everyone doesnt want to be alike but why not join a club at school instead of joining a gang. I want to be different but I am also active in many groups at school.

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 You said the 'C' word - consequences.Thats the magic word.

"In the system and tired of shiftless parents"

It is so sad that the general public walk around with blinders on. It is very easy to blame the school system or the mayor for the fault of parents! The school does not have guns for sale in the consession stands nor do the schools offer a class called "join my gang 101.Even if the mayor and all city officials  came up with all sorts of plans for our violence problem it will still be a problem because the ultimate answer and solution is parental supervision and proper rearing from the age of 2yrs. til 18yrs.! Parents please stop blaming the system for you not doing your job as a parent! The schools are here to educate not act as detention center gards or even babysitters! lets be honest , the violent offenders are teens not adults!

This makes the second shooting within a few days. And once again it happened at school. Where are the metal detectors?  I say now is a good time to spend the money and get the detctors in every school here in the  Midsouth. These kids are whacked!!!

Everything starts in the home, and I wonder where there any witnesses during the off campus argument, if so how come no one didn’t report it to the police before the shooting, because in this city if you argue with someone, a person should be a aware that that certain individual you got into a argument will come back after you and maybe try to kill you, was the metal detectors working that day, if not the school should be apart of the blame.

I sort of agree with east memphis, looking at this situation, this is the end result of being in a gang, if this young man was never in one, and was trying to follow the straight and narrow, instead of the broad open gate, he would have never encountered that crazy demon possessed young fellow.

When will these teens learn the lesson of being in a gang, there is nothing good that comes from being in a gang, pure satanic evil.

There is only one thing to say and that is people wake up! God is trying to tell us all something whether we want to hear it or not and whether you believe in Him or not. Stop blaming and pointing fingers at others. It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but the only thing that can be done is that we stop to listen to what He is telling "us" not the victims or the parents of the victims but us. Are you listening now?!

Memphis is like a war zone, you don't know when or where you will be shot.
I hate having to carry a gun where ever I go. (I do have a HCP) 40 years ago
I had to carry an M-16 to survive today I have to carry a glock to survive.
Where is the parental control of their children? Where is the respect for life?
I respect life, and as God is my witness I will take yours if you try to take mine.

Read below...

On Saturday, Feb 2, in a nice, suburban mall in Tinsley Park, IL, six
women were herded into the back room of a Lane Bryant clothing store,
lined up on the floor and shot in the head. Five of the six women,
aged 22 to 42, died. The sixth, gravely wounded, feigned death and
survived to tell police what happened and describe the lone suspect.
The suspect had robbed the store of a small amount of cash, and in
cold blood executed all these women just to eliminate witnesses. The
same week, on the parking lot of a suburban grocery store in Houston,
TX, an armed suspect tried to car-jack a man at gunpoint. The man had
a Texas CHL and a pistol, and shot the armed robber to death.

These two incidents from the same week illustrate the huge difference
between sheep and sheep dogs. Both occurred in public places, while
normal people were simply going about their business and shopping.
Whether at the mall, the grocery store or anywhere else, violence can
happen ANY TIME and you must be prepared to deal with it. Out of
seven intended victims, the only one unhurt is the one who was armed.

I JUST HEARD FROM  (I HOPE NOT) A SCHOOL OFFICIAL OR SOMONE WHO DEALS WITH OUR CHILDREN  SAY THAT IT TAKES ALMOST 45 MINUETS TO USE METAL DETECTORS AND THIS DISRUPTS THE TIME THE STUDENTS NEED TO LEARN.  WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE STUDENTS LEARNING TIME IS DISRUPTED (FOR SOME) A LIFETIME WHEN YOU HAVE CONSISTEN INCIDENTS LIKE THE ON TODAY.  PARENTS MAY BE TO BLAME BUT YOU CAN TEACH AND TELL YOUR CHILDREN RIGHT FROM WRONG AND THEY STILL CHOOSE THE WRONG PATH.  EVEN THE BEST OF FAMILIES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIER CHILDREN.  IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KILL, ROB, OR BEAT YOU THEN THEY ARE.
WHAT DOES OUR MAYOR HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS?  I WISH I HAD A SOLUTION BUT I DON'T.  METAL DETECTORS MAY NOTE STOP ALL THE VIOLENCE BUT I'M SURE IT WOULD HELP.    I'M SURE STUDENTS AND PARENT WON'T MIND THE 45 MINUETS IF IT MEANS BEING SAFE. CAN'T THE SCHOOL BOARD FIND SOME MONEY LAYING AROUND THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT TO GOOD USE.

Here we go again, like a broken record another child is gun down and MCS send the same photocopy message to all the parents pretending to be concern about what happen.Its sad that I must stay this but ...the whole system needs to be take over by the state because the school board obviously does not care or act as if they do care to do something about it.
I think every member of that board should be removed and let the parents take over because educated individuals who claim to be are not living up to the standards of the public trust...so sad.

the two involved wasnt accidently teenagers, actually one of the students should be out of school, the victim is a 19 year old 12th grader, and the other is a 17 year old tenth grader, just by looking at the ages and the grades they are in, this should come to no suprise of this altercation, because i would say if both parties had a gun they would have shot each other to the death,

yes the shooter cannot justify his actions for shooting the 19 year old, because only words were exchanged, but just by seeing where these young men stand in high school, sooner or later, their lifestyle was going to catch up with them

ON YOUR 6P.M. REPORT ONE HIGH SCHOOL REPORTED THAT THEIR SCHOOL SHOOTING WAS ACCIDENTAL FROM A GUN BEING IN A STUDENT'S BACKPACK. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? IF YOU PICK UP A GUN AND PUT IT IN YOUR BACKPACK THAT IS AN ACT OF MALICE. HOW CAN YOU ACCIDENTALLY BRING A FIREARM ON TO SCHOOL PROPERTY WITHOUT THE INTENT TO DO SOMETHING?

The city of Memphis and the Board of Education both need to start accepting the fact that some, not all of the parents of this city do not have any guidance themselves. As a former assistant teacher of elementary school, I know first hand what these teachers are deaing with and being underpaid while doing so. So many of today's parents do not set examples for their children and will only show their faces at school to fight a staff member for trying to do their job. So, my first question is how long are we going to say " Well, the parents need to do more... when it's obvious that some of these parents are not responsible. My children should not have to suffer at the hands of some unraised hooligans while the city of Memphis sits back and says "we cant afford metal detectors", " it's not our job", or my favorite" it would take to much out of our curriculum time to search students for weapons". That's truly a joke. Also, with that being said, why is it that money is never an issue for our beloved Pyramid development, the renovation of the Liberty Bowl, anything that our almighty #1 Memphis Tigers request, or any other developments that we feel would benefit our great city. My son attends school in the White Station district. I wonder what type of steps would be taken if this sort of violence started taking place in that area instead of urban, predominantly black schools. Hmmm......................................................

IF THIS IS THE GENERATION THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE THEN WE ARE IN BIG TROUBLE!!!!!!!! ALL STUDENTS NEED TO CARRY CLEAR BACKPACKS, METAL DECTORS NEED TO BE USED DAILY!!!! WE AS PARENTS NEED TO STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH OUR CHILDREN AND START BACK PARENTEN THEM.
IF A CHILD IS CAUGHT WITH A WEAPON IN SCHOOL, THET NEED TO BE KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tiredofxcuses, you hit the nail on the head with that one.  It is going to take something major to go down at our beloved Germantown High, Cordova, Collierville, etc. for people to realize this isn't just a "black" problem; it is EVERYONE'S problem!!!  Stop with this "you people" attitude and realize that this is a national epidemic.  Our city (not mine anymore because I've fled to our southern neighbors) is falling victim to crime and poverty.  Come on people, one problem feeds off the other.

If it can happen at Mitchell or Hamilton, it can happen at Germantown, Bartlett or anywhere else in Memphis!!  The solution doesn't lie in passing the blame, but accepting responsibility for what is wrong in our society and trying to make things better.  
Consequences need to be made stiffer, children and parents need to be held accountable, and we need to stop with the blame game!!!

And for "you people" who like to blame black people for all the crime in Memphis, (in the world for that matter) how many black people do you know that own planes (to bring the drugs and guns to the U.S. from Cuba, South America, etc.)???  Better yet, how many black people do you know that actually produce drugs, guns, etc????  Well, let me answer that one for you, NONE!!!  We don't bring that crap over here, we don't produce it, but we are guilty of selling them, but if you cut off the supplier, wouldn't that eliminate the problem??? So again, let's take responsibility, research the facts, and become more knowledgeable of the situation, and learn how to combat these and all the other ills of our society!!!

bjames02.
 You've got a good point, the school shootings nationwide is all across the racial spectrum.. It seems the white kids go for a mass killing while the black kids have a personal score to settle. Both of course are wrong. I also don't like the media blaming the schoolboard. The blame first comes with the parents. As far as the planes and stuff.I can't say . I personally don't know anyone with a plane.As far as the drugs go.The ingredients are found in stores and cooked up anywhere.Whites and blacks are making it. Memphis is a majority black city,blacks are comiting the most crime.Thats not to say all blacks are criminals ,just as not all whites are law abiding. If anyone wants to hear the truth as it happens then go to  www.scanmemphis.net , then click on the listen live link and follow the promps . No one on Earth can argue with that.

Herenton will NOT ever do anything in Memphis to take care of the crime problem we live with everday. It's NOT just in the schools, it's everywhere. It's at the gas station, it's at the shopping center parking lot, heck it's even in your driveway in
East Memphis, Germantown, Cordova, Olive Branch, Walls, Horn Lake, Collierville.
The police can't protect the citizens of Shelby county, they're overwhelmed. These
punks aren't just black, they're white, mexican, males and females. They're gangs
of different breeds. We can pay for 500 new officers to replace those who are retiring, but adding an additional 1,000 officers wouldn't do it either. Our tax base
is moving out of Shelby county because the county leaders just don't have the answer. For those blacks who can't stay in school, get an education and become positive role model citizens, but they want  the fast money. They can't get the million dollars sporting contracts. Their parents don't love them, the GANGS love them and make them feel valuable and reward them with fast money in crime. Herenton needs to resign he has failed the city, Wharton too. We pay the highest taxes in Tennessee and crime has taken over. Everybody go out get a gun permit,
buy yourself a gun for protection and then start shooting these thugs that come up to you with guns. Live by the gun die by the gun.  

I graduated 6 yrs ago and the same thing that went on then is still going on now. I'm so tired of people screaming about metal detectors because they aren't going to help. They are only good from 7:15 until 7:45, and after that teachers and administrators leave the posts and the students come in late, still able to bring whatever they want into the schools. If there is not going to be full day supervision of metal detectors then it does not matter. The security in memphis city schools is about the same as walking down the street doing everyday life things you take a chance and thats bad to say when peoples children are involved.

jwood37 , You are right, its the only thing that will work.

Someone please put an APB out for MNSHADOW53, DOVER, CATGIRL, EASTMEMPHIS, E.O.O. because it seems when the conversation isn't done by the nasayers they're no where to be found with all that logic,facts, and paste from the great black hope MR BILL COSBY!!!!!

If they put in walk-through metal detectors at all entry/exit doors and the cafeteria doors this sort of thing would be seriously curtailed but instead the City of Memphis is more interested in creating a job for some semi-literate idiot who doesn't want to work in the first place but feels he/she is owed a job where they don't actually have to do anything to earn his/her pay, idiot waving a metal detector around.

Gosh gmoney....you miss me!  I am soooooooo flattered!  I already said what I had to say, and unlike you, I won't keep flapping my jaws trying to inflame people with stupidity.  Go buy another BMW, my friend!  

  gmoney2u said: said:
Someone please put an APB out for MNSHADOW53, DOVER, CATGIRL, EASTMEMPHIS, E.O.O.
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Gmoney – LOL  Awhhhhhh you really miss us! How nice! We don’t put an APB out for you because we know, if  you’re given a direct question requiring the truth,  you either don’t answer, or you dance around for a week before giving a halfazz reply.  BTW..while you’re missing us spend your time wisely and wash your BMW’s.

LOL Dover.....GMTA

GMoney- You miss us. That is so sweet.

I think this whole thing was sad. Metal detectors won't solve the problem.

The parents need to be held accountable.

And why have you labeled me a naysayer? Does trying to communicate make me a naysayer? I am sorry for that, as I think that this type of communication is good. If we can talk about stuff and figure out how to come to terms on what is wrong and how to fix it, imagine the good that can come out of it.

Ithink I see racial statements in there somewhere

Catgirl, there you go with that sweetie stuff again

MrWhitey-

Remember this saying-

You gather more bees than honey.

Edit comment-

You gather more bees with honey than vinegar...

Sorry, sometimes my brain out maneuvers my fingers.

LOL CatGirl.....I understood

okay....I'm confused is this a Mrwhitey or a MrsWhitey? I see both above..coincidence? lol

Dover, Theoretically they are 2 people.......

I got no idea about MrsWhitey ,Hey Dover , why is your name in a different color?

Mrwhitey said:
I got no idea about MrsWhitey ,Hey Dover , why is your name in a different color?
February 12, 2008 10:33 AM
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'whitey' stands out and odd that more than one person would select that as a moniker but okay.

I don't know why my name is a different color. I registered when they stopped anonymous postings. If you find out why..let me know.

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I think Static is behind Mrs.Whitey,I dont wake up that early I sllep till bout 7. I'm on W/C . I'll go back to work around June.

Static has more names than Quakers got Oats but he's pretty easy to pick out in a crowd because of the things he posts and the tales he tells.

Yeah, he 's very different

Well, Irvin Wolff is 201 Poplar bound

“WE NEED TO MARCH!!

Like the million men on D.C., like the civil rights leaders on the south, we need to march. We need to demand peace, civility, conflict resolution, anger manangement, restraint. We need not be afraid to let our demands be know, to make them listen. We need to march on ourselves, BLACK COMMUNITY. It was not the klan who shot that black child at Mitchell high school, it is not a racist governor that’s causing students to fail basic test to exit high school. It is us, we have become our on worst enemy. When a child exhibits behavior that’s counter-productive to our community, we need to march. When a parent allows a child to miss several days of school, we need to march. When a person dosen’t understand that he has to work in our society to live, we need to march. MCS can buy thousands of metal detectors for our schools, MPD can hire thousands officers for our community, none of that will make a difference until we make the difference. No, this decline didn’t just start. Yes, we were brought to this country to be slaves. But, we have a Black Mayor, we have Black representation on the city council and the school board. And, in 2008 there is a real chance a Black man may be representing the democratic party in a presidential election. What other excuse is there. (Money) Their are several Black millionaires walking this earth. (Famous Faces) They were all over West Memphis and Jena. One Black man started a movement that caused the White community to stand up for the creed of this nation. Can we stand up for the life of the BLACK COMMUNITY.”

Mr Governor:

You have to know Memphis is rapidly becoming a cesspool of crime. I have lived in Memphis all my life and I continue to grow more and more worried about this city. I wont waste time spelling out the issues here because I’m sure the Governor is aware of the problems. However, I will address one issue in which I feel the Gov should become involved with.

We have a mayor who apparently does not care what is happening to our city. It is obvious to most that the mayor is simply concerned with his own well-being and the well-being of his crew. They are all corrupt and dragging the city further into the abyss. Case in point of the city leaders arrogance is the total lack of care when the city schools have shootings, tornadoes wreak havoc and crime is 100% out of control. My point is our leaders just will not step up to the plate and assure the citizens of Memphis that steps are being taken to get things under control.

What we need in this city is someone to step up and scream out “enough is enough”. Our mayor will not do that. Our council will not do that. Our school leaders will not do that. No one will do that here. The situation here is spiraling downward and our leaders are nowhere to be seen!

Governor, we need a “Rambo” here and we need it bad. We need you to intervene in the affairs of the largest city in your state. We need you to come to Memphis and force meetings with the Mayor and his flock. We need you to take control of the school system. We need you to push through tougher laws. We need you to help with legislation to help keep thugs in jail/prison where they belong. Please help close the “revolving door” at 201 Poplar.

Mr Governor, can we please receive some help over here in this sinking ship? Be a hero and intervene!

Marching isn't going to save Memphis....taking a stand for what is right is the only thing that will help.  It starts in the home.  Parents need to take charge of their children.  Teach them to deal with life honestly and with honor and fairness.  Stop blaming everything on the past.  I posted the rest of this on another blog, but it seems apropos to this subject too.

If we are mired down by the past, we can never move forward.  I am not saying forget the past because those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.  I am saying don't let past injustices stop you from living TODAY.  We cannot change anything that happened 100 years ago by whining about our plight now.  We have to get off our lazy butts and do something about it.  Successful people of all colors and creeds do not sit around whining....they WORK to change their lives.  Think about it, especially successful black people.  

Do you think Oprah Winfrey, Barack Obama; Bill Cosby et al sat around crying about the injustices of the past?  No way!  The same goes for white people.  Bill Gates didn’t sit around whining about his plight in life, he WORKED.  You will never see a successful crack head.  I am not saying we will all get to be millionaires, but there isn’t one of us who couldn’t, if we were willing to do what it takes!  

My grandparents came over here on a boat.  They didn’t speak English.  They had no welfare, AFDC, food stamps, interpreters and signs in their language everywhere.  They were expected to learn the language, fit in, work, and be productive Americans.  They did that.  Every able-bodied person should be off his or her butt and contributing to the society the best way they can, instead of generation after generation sitting around, bemoaning their lives and collecting a check for it!        

For all of you out there, please get the facts right. tThe gunman was not the one in the gang. iIf you listen to what was going on the victum was then one in the gang. The gunman told his family members that some guys was hounding him about getting in a gang and he didnt want to. No one ever did anything about it so he got tired of being bullied around by these guys. That why he ended up shooting that guy. That why he told the official that IT IS OVER NOW.

EOO-

Now don't get mad, but I have a question. When you mention Black mayor, Black representation, etc. it makes me feel like you discount the numbers of other race mayors, representation, etc. that have also done good for the black community. Surely that is not what you meant to do?

Just one example- Steve Cohen. He will probably lose this next election because some people had the nerve to say he couldn't represent black folks because he's not black. But I don't see him telling people that he can't help them because he's black. I think he helps whoever needs help, regardless. Why can't we all be like that?

Why can't we do the right thing as a society of PEOPLE, not black, or white, or Asian, etc?

You're  right, but name me a couple of people who have really done good for the black comunity.I think the black community should do some good for themselves. We all know you appreciate it more when you do it yourself.You keep throwing all this up tp white people.How bout asking some black bloggers the same question. It will be interesting to see the answer.

@EOO, we need to march and shoot at the evil doers,

I wont get mad at you catgirl.I think you're Puuuuuuurfect

You're kidding me, right? Name you a couple of people? A couple? Since we all like to keep harping on the past- how about Abraham Lincoln? How about all the WHITE people who provided stops on the Underground Railroad? Umm... let's see- how about the WHITE politicians/people who voted to end segregation? How about the white people who marched with Dr. King? How about...

And I'm not asking only the white people. I don't recall ever saying, "HEY WHITE PEOPLE, answer me this" (forgive bad grammar- used on purpose). See? Here we go again! It always HAS to be WHITE or BLACK. Someone is always gonna say it. Why? Why? Why?

Believe it or not, I just DON'T constantly look at the world in terms of black or white. I just try to look at the world. And you know what? There are so many BEAUTIFUL colors out there that are getting ignored when we only pay attention to to. Red roses, green trees, blue skies, yellow brick road...

*SIGH*

You're kidding me, right? Name you a couple of people? A couple? Since we all like to keep harping on the past- how about Abraham Lincoln? How about all the WHITE people who provided stops on the Underground Railroad? Umm... let's see- how about the WHITE politicians/people who voted to end segregation? How about the white people who marched with Dr. King? How about...

And I'm not asking only the white people. I don't recall ever saying, "HEY WHITE PEOPLE, answer me this" (forgive bad grammar- used on purpose). See? Here we go again! It always HAS to be WHITE or BLACK. Someone is always gonna say it. Why? Why? Why?

Believe it or not, I just DON'T constantly look at the world in terms of black or white. I just try to look at the world. And you know what? There are so many BEAUTIFUL colors out there that are getting ignored when we only pay attention to two. Red roses, green trees, blue skies, yellow brick road...

*SIGH*

EOO- I've been thinking more. Does the list only have to be "famous" people? Or can it include someone like my dad who happily hires black people, pays them decent wages and provides real health insurance at NO cost to them, in order to help them be able to work hard and do for themselves?

Can he have credit for doing something positive for black people?

Well, I was talking a little more modern, like past 25 years Thats ok I couldn't do it either.As you say , Please don't get mad, but maybe you should look at more things in black and white.

No. Maybe I don't.

Maybe THAT (meaning only seeing two colors) is precisely the problem. It keeps us separated by color. It keeps us from getting along. It keeps us from working for the greater good together as just people.

Just. People.

First of all, this incident should NOT come to a surprise to anyone who lives in Memphis or the surrounding area. This is actually going to become an everyday incident very quickly if something isn't done immediately. The schools only can do so much and my opinion they aren't even doing that!! They need metal detectors at every school in my opinion and it should be used everyday to anyone entering the school doors!! No random usage, but everyday usage!! This is the only thing that the school system can do to protect our children while there during school hours. Then the root of the problem with these kids having no respect for others and a person's life starts in the home. The government one day will have to step in and start new laws to prevent children being born to individuals who are incapable of being a parent!!! If an individual can NOT afford a child there should be a limit to the number of children one can have and they should be held 100% responsible for their child's behavior!! If a parent can NOT be at home to take care and raise that child then they should NOT be allowed to have children. Of course, people will find this to be unreasonable, but this problem will never be solved as long as there are individuals having children and not raising them because they aren't home to take care of them. These kids are raising themselves and this problem will never change but only worsen due to this reality in today's time. I am a stay at home mom and trust me we barely get by with me being home with my child. I have no money to spend and we are living paycheck to paycheck. We made this choice because we chose to have a child and to be a parent to that child. Why have children if you can't afford them and can't raise them. So until the government puts restrictions on having children then our city, county, state and country will only grow with crime due to selfishness and no parenting!!!! There is no other solution!! People can try to come up with a solution but seriously think about it, you can talk about this until you turn blue in the face nothing else will work!! And my opinion will never happen because how dare the government telll people they can't have a child!! So make the parent 100% responsible from day one for their child's behavior!!

Dang ya'll think I'm bad ? The above post is nothing short of good old fashion communism

PARENTS HAVE NO RIGHT TO BLAME THE TEACHERS AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION FOR THEIR CHILDREN'S BEHAVIOR!!! IT IS THE JOB OF SCHOOL EMPLOYEES TO HELP THE STUDENTS ACHIEVE AS A PART OF THEIR PARENTS' RESPONSIBILITY. IF THE PARENTS ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING, IT IS DIFFICULT TO HELP THE CHILDREN!

Yes, some of it does sound pretty bad in a way, but... in another? Maybe a little logical?

I like the idea of IQ testing before being allowed to breed. AND... I like the idea of level of education dictating how many kids you can have- and if you think about it- typically (though not always) the more education one has means better paying jobs and drive to be a better parent. Before everyone starts screaming at me for these thoughts- I said TYPICALLY (though not always); there are always exceptions to the rules.

Indiscriminate breeding is not going really well, is it?

Anyway- I know that it will never happen, and know why it shouldn't, but when you are trying to come up with a solution, sometimes it does cross the mind of some folks...

I remember the days if you got a note home from the teacher for doing something bad, you got it at home too!  Now it's  "Boo Hoo you hurt my poor baby's feelings.  He will be scarred for life."  What a load of cow manure!  This whole philosophy of "deferred success" doesn't teach our children how to deal with "real life."  Someone has to win and someone has to lose.  But where is the character building experience?  Nowhere!  

Parent's have abdicated control of their children because it's "just too hard" to be the bad guy.  We are raising a whole generation of self-indulgent, spoiled cry-babies who want it all right now with absolutely no conception of how to earn anything and no desire to work to achieve anything either.  And we wonder why this country is becoming the laughing stock of the world!  Dang.....how did I find that soapbox again????  Sheesh

This is the link for one of the most interesting speaches I have ever read.  It's Bill Cosby speaking at the 50th anniversary of Brown Vs. The Board of Education.  He sure makes valid points.  Too bad the people who need to listen aren't!

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm