I think it’s a crying shame when responsible adults live a drug infested lifestyle and the children suffer. when you owe the dope man money you’ll pay one way or another, and your children will too.Last night several paid with their lives.

This is a despicable crime.  I don't care what the motive is....robbery, drugs, revenge, whatever....but to brutalize and kill children is the most horrific of crimes.  There is a special level of He!! for those animals!  It is overwhelming to even try to get my arms around this kind of crime.  There's an old Simon & Garfunkel song where one of the lines is "I get all the news I need from the weather report."  Stuff like this makes that deserted island really call my name!  

My heart goes out to the victim and the children especially. I was born in Binghampton and we grew up aroungd violence but none have i ever heard like this. This is the worst that i know about in the memphis history ever since the shannon street murders along time aga. I have 3 beautiful daughters and i wouldnt know what i would do if somethiung like this was to ever happen to them, but i hope that the shooter turn his self in, or something because i know that he cant sleep at night behind all of this I know that God will not let him rest.  I dont never wish nothing bad on anybody but i do hope that S.O.B. bnurn in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A fellow named Gilligan was on an island once

We as Memphians need to take a stand and protect our children, they are our future.  If we know the parents are not responsible someone in the family needs to step up and take that child out of there destructive enviroment.  Innocent children are suffering and two will not be able to be a voice in this society because someone so STUPID, we no regard to human life took matters into there own hands.  I do not know all the details of this case so I'm not going to imply that drugs were involved or it was gang involment, because other people do commit crimes other than gang members and drug dealers! The fact of the matter is that those were someones love ones and they are no longer here.

Tom Hanks was too......

I just pray for the families that were effected in this crime. God will prevail in this.

I just pray for the families that were effected in this crime. God will prevail in this.

Am I the only one who thinks It's very wierd that the baby's mom went to the house 3 times and once opened the door and called their names but never went in????

Maybe she was scared.....looks like she should have been!  Who knows?  

i think that i sad what tohappen to them innocent children i just want to give my prayers out to the family and i hope the police put an end to this tragedy

Two Toddlers - what kind of animal kills a toddler?  They can't even testify.  

Once again I think we should turn the Pyramid into a Coliseum type venue where we can fight child molesters and child killers to death and get PPV proceeds.  

The four adults - at least one of them is no great loss and probably was a problem solved for society.  I pray society is better with all four gone but I am sure at least some were just innocent victims.  I pray the innocents are in Heaven with Jesus now.

Now I am sure when the perps are caught - and they will be caught - all involved in their prosecution conspire for multiple life sentences plus 50 years.  But I bet some will be walking the streets in less than 15 years.

You know that 25 years ago Binghampton was not a bad place to live.  You couldn't leave stuff laying around and if you wanted to get into a fight there were plenty of rednecks ready to oblige, but you could walk down the street.  

Crack dealers hadn't taken over whole neighborhoods New Jack City style (Given st). It was Rednecks who went to work and some who sold pot.  Now - stone killers wander the area with little more than a limbic system controlling their reactions.  It is the Land Shark of Saturday Night Live lore.  Bump into one and your loved ones are dead.

I am praying for way to Montana or Wyoming.  This once beautiful city is gone.  I have a dream - not the same one MLK so eloquently and convincingly spoke of. It died with him.  Blacks are only able to judge by the color of ones skin.

Two Toddlers - what kind of animal kills a toddler?  They can't even testify.  

Once again I think we should turn the Pyramid into a Coliseum type venue where we can fight child molesters and child killers to death and get PPV proceeds.  

The four adults - at least one of them is no great loss and probably was a problem solved for society.  I pray society is better with all four gone but I am sure at least some were just innocent victims.  I pray the innocents are in Heaven with Jesus now.

Now I am sure when the perps are caught - and they will be caught - all involved in their prosecution conspire for multiple life sentences plus 50 years.  But I bet some will be walking the streets in less than 15 years.

You know that 25 years ago Binghampton was not a bad place to live.  You couldn't leave stuff laying around and if you wanted to get into a fight there were plenty of rednecks ready to oblige, but you could walk down the street.  

Crack dealers hadn't taken over whole neighborhoods New Jack City style (Given st). It was Rednecks who went to work and some who sold pot.  Now - stone killers wander the area with little more than a limbic system controlling their reactions.  It is the Land Shark of Saturday Night Live lore.  Bump into one and your loved ones are dead.

I am praying for way to Montana or Wyoming.  This once beautiful city is gone.  I have a dream - not the same one MLK so eloquently and convincingly spoke of. It died with him.  Blacks are only able to judge by the color of ones skin.

"The man who owns the house says Cecil Dotson rents the home and he is always polite and helpful."
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Besides when he is commiting Aggravated Robbery and Agravated Assault I am sure he is a nice guy.  Do a justice inquiry on him.  His last Aggravated Robbery (earlier this year) may have been the wrong homeboy.

Do we have identities of the people in the house?

Negative Madame Vice-President, with the exception of Cecil Dotson.

Every time that something violent happens in the city, we hear the same things.
" We need to come together as a community, we need to do this, or do that."
Everyone gets on the bandwagon and then we forget. The violence in Memphis City Schools is a glaring example. Our children deserve our undivided attention. They deserve to grow up with responsible adults around them, people who will nurture and care for them. I believe that it all begins at home. The schools are not there to raise our children; that belongs to the parents. We desperately need more parental involvement.

I hope that the person or persons responsible for this horrific crime are caught.

We can pray until we are blue in the face, but behind that prayer we need action. We need to decide that we are sick of this needless crime and violence. We cannot look to the police or government to solve this problem. We are responsible for our neighborhoods, we are responsible for making sure that our children respect others, we are responsible for making sure that we ACTUALLY TALK to our children.  As parents, you should know what's going on in the life of your child. The time has passed for rhetoric, we need action...The first action should be....if you can't take care of your children, don't have any.

I recently moved my family out the wonderful city of memphis because of the horrific lifestyle that too many in memphis have come to believe is ok to live.  It is too bad that there are so many people that have to suffer because of a few that think they are above the law and can do anything that they want.  Whatever happened to love thy neighbor.  It surely has became to heck with thy neighbor.  I hope that whoever did this is brought to justice to the fullest extent of the law.  The sad thing is that those that remain with the guns and drugs and total disregard for others will not learn a lesson from all of this.  God bless the good people of Memphis.  Just remember there are still beautiful and SAFE places to live and raise a family.  

Wow, just heard Mayor Silly Willies’ comments on the Memphis murders of last night and he said More police wont help, more prisons wont help,which of both I agree, but then here comes the famous arrogance factor. He said that marching in the streets and praying wont even help.Boy, he is the all knowing , all powerful.I hope ya’ll elect him again, ya’ll deserve him.

GOD BLESS THE LESTER STREET VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. GOD BLESS MY CITY?

What more can I say about this tragedy that hasn't been said. Humm...Well, the Mayor had nothing positive to say today and never does. Crime is not his top priority. His famous words keep ringing in my ears......."if you don't like Memphis, then leave".  Our Mayor is supposed to be the leader and give us hope.  God Bless these families.  

I think that who ever killed all these people and hurt those innocent kids should be punished to the fullest,but with the justice system as it is,these fools will cope a plea deal,pay their lawyers and judges and walk away scotch free. I've seen this happen too many times.They say do a gun crime and you'll get sentenced for a lifetime. It's all a lie!

This just goes to show the world is coming to an end the focus of
this hateful crime should be the adults and the children not on the
victims background but on trying to find the mentally ill psyco that
did this!!!!!

who is this dr. white guy you seem to know what to do so dr. white what do we do? yes it is a terrible situation and it is uncontrollable but you don't point the finger at anyone not even the parents because as a parent you have to pay the bills as far as the young lady speaking of the school system when your child leaves home if he or she walks you don't know who will lend your child a gun all you know is they did'nt get it from home does that make you a bad parent you did'nt tell your mom everything she had to find out and all she did'nt find out is still kept with you. as for the shooting, it happens everyday what can we do but stay prayered up and control whats going on at our house so it won't be you one day

my feelings are that for anyone to harm a small child,shows they have no heart what-so-ever, my prayers are with the family and i pray they catch who done this and make sure they pay for what they done,as for what mr.mayor said, i agree, more police officers or more prisons arent the anwer, the answer is simple, the courts need to steo up and put these drug dealers behind bars and keep them there. somehow,someway, the courts are going to have to stop letting these drugs dealers. users, etc, out and lock them up in prison for life, and make thier life a living hell. drugs, and crocked justice systems are what is wrong with this world,i pray someone will make courts start making firmer harder laws on drugs and when one is caught, lock them up and keep them there,prays arent the answer, but locking drug dealers up and anyone else caught with drugs will, put an end to drugs, the right way,poor little innocent children have to suffer for something they havent done,things have got to change,stop the drugs and stop the violent movies shown to kids,

i am saddened by the murders in binghampton and  pray that the guilty be caught.
my fellow memphians ,we must come together sometime and some way all memphians.our schools are in trouble,gangs are taking over our neighborhoods and we can bet there will be a reporting of a murder or some other gun crime by days end.i remember when we only made national news for things like memphis n may,and elvis.now we have these stone cold killers ready to shoot anybody for anything and do on a daily basis.then of course you will see these fools on another 48 crying about there terrible acts and wanting pity.god bless the binghampton community and families of the victims and heal the children to a full recovery.amen

I feel bloggers like Dr. White and East Memphis don't think before they write. First of all, the young man's past should not overshadow the fact that someone murdered him and others in his household. This shows you how society’s moral ethics and empathy have almost vanished. Remember when you point the finger three are pointing back at you. Lord forbid something happens to you or someone in your family how would you feel if bloggers decided to write harsh comments being judgmental without knowing the facts. Snap out of it you are not the judge or the jury. Regardless of how that young man may have lived his life everyone is subject to change even the correctional institutions believe in rehabilitation so why can't you. Life is just that life. In order for you (man) to judge you would have to be God and that you are not so why judge. Become a solution instead of part of society’s problems. Create, innovate, and rejuvenate a change for all. Instead you are just insinuating, instigating, and initiating negative discussions.

hi i just want to say that reguardless what mr.dotson has done in the pass no 1  deservers  to be murdured like that and innocent  people died for what  nothing is that serious  where someone could  harm 5 innocent kids killing 2  of them  the first time  something happen people say its drug related  or gang banging   thats not always  the factor  everyone talk about what to do far as the punishment or what to do about the killings  well in the early 60's and 70's  we didn't worry about a lot of  killings going on  bring the electric chair back and u will see that once u made a beliver out  them u will see the change in things  our innocent  kids  not even begin life get theres taken and now days some people kill they don't have a heart and don't lose rest over it what they have done as  far as the kids in schools cutting up i blame the law when your not allowed to discipline on child  if you whip them you will go to jail and taking spankings  out of the schools  what message do  that tell your kids  its ok  because if  they get caught out there doing something wrong their going to beat them but thats ok .dr.m.l.king came   here  to make sure we  had our rigjhts and he died  here doing a good thing but what are we doing hurting and killing  each   other  please  lets stop the killings and violence   my prayers are with the family

This is a prime example of why you people should'nt think it's ok to live around a person who you know isn't living right! I've seen it to many time in the hood where everybody knows a persons lifestyle isn't a good one and they just accept it just to get some of the under the table benefits. It's like a young person who sells dope out of their parents home, girls living with dope dealers because of the money, cousins hanging with cousins because of the v.i.p. status some hustleing gets them so ask yourself people is it really worth it? I blame these major production companies for glorifying the thug life and allowing these broke *** rappers to act like that's what they do everyday in these whack videos! These images are the root to a majority of the problems in our society so at what point does freedom of speech go to far!

This is a crying shame, why the babies? why kill at all? STOP this VIOLENCE MEMPHIS take a stand against these criminals. Who cares what the motive was people are not the judge and jury to take things into thier own hands and kill.

 caringforall said:
I feel bloggers like Dr. White and East Memphis don't think before they write. First of all, the young man's past should not overshadow the fact that someone murdered him and others in his household. This shows you how society’s moral ethics and empathy have almost vanished.
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First I would bet my bottom dollar the "young man" with the past either murder-suicided everyone or was the main target.  Second you live by the sword (and he did) you die by it. Third - it is plainly idiotic not to consider that when someone uses arms and violence on others, documented as recently as 2 months ago and everyone around him is shot, his lifestyle might be the problem.

It is people like you who march for violent felons (like the Jena 6) who turn their community into a violent unlivable cesspool.  Keep it up, it is obviously working for the black community.

My sadness is strictly for the innocent children that were put in 'one more' dangeous situation.

correction - *dangerous* situation!

the boys in jena 6 were not violent felons, just because you have been in trouble does not make you a felon, east memphis. If you live by the sword and die by the sword that doesn't mean that people can not feel sorry for you if you and your family ended up murdered.  What is turning our community into unliveable cesspools are these parents who have no control of there children and did not properly raise them and send them to school expecting the teachers and pricipals to raise them, but by that time it is already to late so the police have to beat their butts and do what the parents should have done, NOW they are a danger to society and to the WHITE and BLACK communities! Take your own advice and think before you write East Memphis (the hood).

Married-

The teachers and principals CAN'T be expected to raise them. They aren't even allowed to DISCIPLINE them anymore. So, they are fighting a losing battle.

Then, when the police "beat their butts" they scream police brutality and discrimination.

What we SHOULD do is start beating the butts of the lazy A$$ parents, and putting them in jail with their children. That might make them take more of an interest in what their little angels are doing- cause being in jail would cut into their party time, now wouldn't it?

Anyone know when this case will air on “The First 48?”

I’m sure when it does it will make the detectives at the MPD look like idiots again.  

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marriedwchild - The ‘boys’ in Jena 6 were 6 to 1! I think you will agree that’s tremendously uneven odds!  As for Mycal Bell, Jena was his 5th conviction for violent crimes!  No one knows what happened in this horrific case yet but, it’s a fact, criminal behavior attracts criminal behavior.  Cecil Dotson  has a ‘criminal background’! That alone will make people think - when, and if, they find the killer/killers, they MAY find a personal connection to Dotson. I know whomever the killer/killers, they do not deserve to take one more breath!  I’m sick of children and innocent people being dragged into the criminal world.   Some people don’t like the facts but note…..the faces plastered all over your TV and newspaper of those committing murders in the city of Memphis! Are they white? Yes, some are.  Are they hispanic? Yes, some are. Are they black? Yes, (by a big majority) they are!  That has nothing to do with being racist, it’s the statistics and facts reported! It is time to admit what is wrong and work to change it.

CatGirl...You hit the nail on then head!  "What we SHOULD do is start beating the butts of the lazy A$$ parents, and putting them in jail with their children. That might make them take more of an interest in what their little angels are doing- cause being in jail would cut into their party time, now wouldn't it?"  

"   marriedwchild said:
the boys in jena 6 were not violent felons, "
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Bwaaa Haaa Haaaa!

Mychal was violent young thug who had robberies and thefts and various other charges on him.  As a matter of fact he was not released from jail because of his violent history.  Mychal is the type of punk who preys on the old, weak, infirm, females and children in your community.  Yet you support him.

Two of the other Jena 6 had criminal histories.  As juveniles we are prevented from examining them and only know what the prosecutors used in adult court to explain his violent history.  The press asked the families involved to release their records and only one family did.  That child didn't have one and evidently was just caught up in a moment of tribal 6 on 1 violence.  

Now I know and have been educated here that six males stomping on one unconscious male is a "simple schoolyard fight" but my undeniable whiteness can't really see it that way.  

Maybe that is why white communities suffer violence and murder at one tenth the rate of black areas.  Whites think a schoolyard fight is when two kids punch it out and it is broken up when one gets the better of the other.  Blacks see a simple schoolyard fight as six people stomping on one sending them to the hospital.

There are racial differences in attitudes toward violence and misogyny.   Blacks tolerate and glorify violence.  It permeates their culture, music, movies.  The media raises young blacks to be angry and have hair trigger violent reactions.  Some need to - it really is dangerous to be passive in the type of atmosphere dominated by young males who have female reactions (because they are raised by women) and male bodies and testosterone.

And Married - it is not parents - it is a mom - who somewhere around 11-14 loses total control of the young animal in her house.  Many mothers are battered and beaten before they give up.  There is a young man in their house who has learned a woman's reactions and is capable of pounding everyone around them.

The Jena 6 are just a symbol of the pathology and lack of responsibility permeating your community.  The poor young boy shot in West Memphis is too.  Whomever did this evil on Lester killed more black kids than the Memphis area (and West Memphis) police have done in 40 or 50 years.  Where is the real threat? To watch blacks reaction white know they think it is the police.

You want to know the real pathology.  90-91% of all murders are committed by males.  52% of all Murderers are black.  Blacks represent 12+% of the population.  One eighth of the population.  Six percent are male blacks. One Sixteenth of the population. Do the math.  If you don't feel like it - here it is done for you - but remember in this analysis Hispanics are considered WHITE.  Out west they are doing some real killing of blacks and that raise the "white" rate considerably

Get your mind around this before you support people like Mychal.  His sentence was disproportionate (I agree with that) but turning those thugs into celebrities (and they are black celebrities - magazine covers, TV appearances etc) was symbolic of the core issues blacks face.  Those kids will harm far more blacks than whites before their careers are over.  Again get your mind around this

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/ageracesex.htm

Take some time and look at the scales and numbers figure them in percent.  Whites can't say anything. We are racist. If anything is going to happen it is going to have to be a real strong black leader.  But hey Bill Cosby is a racist too.

Remember the stats in the above are white and black - Hispanics are white in that analysis.

"MrMemphisBrown said:
Anyone know when this case will air on “The First 48?”

I’m sure when it does it will make the detectives at the MPD look like idiots again.  
March 5, 2008 11:24 AM "
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Do you watch the clocks in the background of the first 48?  Do you look at the faces of the detectives (who are trying to look good for the TV).  They are dead tired and busting their butts and have one of the highest arrest and conviction rates in the country.  Now anyone here knows I am not a big fan of the MPD - I detest a substantial number of them - they left my family and I hanging out there when we did the right thing.  But the homicide department is on.  They go out and get their man.  It is too bad that is the point it takes place at.  If they started that hard after crooks at the larceny stage - maybe Memphis would be in as many first 48s.

@East Memphis You constantly bring up the black kids in the JENA6 trouble but you fail to mention the shotgun being brought to school by the white teen " who was older and never finished school by the way! Can you say Baby Klansman!" Or the Old white man who pulled a gun on them as well before they surved him his *** whooping which in my eyes should have happened, no I don't feel what they done was wrong because I'd help them if he had pulled a gun on me as well (If you pull a gun on someone you intend to do more than just stomp the crap out of them so if that's the case oh well he got what he was looking for!) East memphis talk about everything at hand at not just key points to make yourself sound like you really know what's going on! Do some real research on some of these issues and stop all of your bias attacks on blacks all the time and please stop stereo typing all black people as well!

It starts with our elected officials not doing they're jobs. This city started its down fall when the so called "Mayor of Memphis" was elected 16 or so years ago. Yet he keeps winning the vote. This city used to be a beautiful place, now people have to worry about if they will make it to work or school alive or without getting robbed. Wake up!! we need to elect someone who cares about the education and safety of our kids and us. Another big issue in this city is RACISM, its crazy. Quit worring about the color of one another's skin and start looking for ways to pull together.  To much finger pointing and not enough answers.

I think it is funny that something happens to a white person, don't no one give a crap and no one DEMANDS answers, but something happens to a BLACK in this city and all hell breaks loose. They want answers and they want them now or something is "wrong" with the investigation.
This is terribly F*U*C*K*D up. We are all humans. All of our lives should be equally valued as well as VALUABLE. No bodies tragedy should be any different that any other persons.
As far as I am concerned, whoever took THIS piece of TRASH to his resting place did the citizens of Memphis and Shelby Co and probably the STATE a service. He had a CRIMINAL past. Oh, we're all suppose to be impressed because he turned his life around. I AM NOT IMPRESSES. HE REAPED WHAT HE SOWED.
The dude he was living with, he could have been just as bad. They were probably involved in some criminal activities together. They were most like responsible for a lot of the burglaries in the area. We don't know. Once a criminal alway a criminal.
Birds of a feather flock together.
GOOD RIDENCES TO BAD RUBISH!!!

"  gmoney2u said:
@East Memphis You constantly bring up the black kids in the JENA6 trouble but you fail to mention the shotgun being brought to school by the white teen " who was older and never finished school by the way!" ____________________________________________________________________

Sounds like you have been listening to Reverend Al.  He had the shotgun in his truck at a convenience store where three honor students assaulted him because he was white.  Now who sounds like the klan there bud.

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"Do some real research on some of these issues and stop all of your bias attacks on blacks all the time and please stop stereo typing all black people as well! "
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Thank you for making my point by supporting this group of young felons.  Fortunately for whites, blacks will be robbed and beaten in greater numbers by the Jena 6 violent racists.  The bad news is some of them (notably that great black role model, hero and violent racist Mychal) are stone predators who get some whites too.

Read the link I gave.  You really need to understand the truth and facts here.

unsubscribe00 said:
I think it is funny that something happens to a white person, don't no one give a crap and no one DEMANDS answers, but something happens to a BLACK in this city and all hell breaks loose. They want answers and they want them now or something is "wrong" with the investigation.
This is terribly F*U*C*K*D up. We are all humans. All of our lives should be equally valued as well as VALUABLE. No bodies tragedy should be any different that any other persons.
As far as I am concerned, whoever took THIS piece of TRASH to his resting place did the citizens of Memphis and Shelby Co and probably the STATE a service. He had a CRIMINAL past. Oh, we're all suppose to be impressed because he turned his life around. I AM NOT IMPRESSES. HE REAPED WHAT HE SOWED.
The dude he was living with, he could have been just as bad. They were probably involved in some criminal activities together. They were most like responsible for a lot of the burglaries in the area. We don't know. Once a criminal alway a criminal.
Birds of a feather flock together.
GOOD RIDENCES TO BAD RUBISH!!!
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I can't go quite that far! But . . .

All the male victims had violent felony records in the Memphis Area according to the Justice system lookup.  Not that it matters there were also prostitution charges on one of the females - look it up.  As far as turning his life around the main guys last violent felony charge was in January of this year.

The children and women are the victims here. The men didn't get shot randomly.  They were shot for a reason - probably a relatively good reason compared to most of the other murders in Memphis.

As far as whites being killed or raped is concerned, blacks simply don't care.  Many really think whites deserve it - read their blogs. I had to stop.  When blacks get upset it's about black on black crime.  Black on white is OK!

Whites as a whole are outraged by what happened here.  They realize what it means - the breakdown of civilization in this city.  Who can put a bullet in a toddler?  

When the woman in Chickasaw Gardens was raped while her 12 y/o son listened you should have read the black blogs.  It would have turned your stomach.  She deserved it - it was payback - the misogynist attitude toward white women, especially rich white ones was scary. It was payback for some slave who might have been raped in 1850. The rest of the blacks were genuinely freaked by the reaction whites had to the home invasion rape.  To them it is just part of life.

It's all race to blacks - don't let anyone tell you different.

No self respecting WHITE citizen of Shelby County should show or be concerned for the loss of this piece of TRASH loss of life. Would any BLACK person think 2 times if it was a WHITE person. No. WAKE UP! Black people of this city could not give a rats a*s*s about any white person. S*H*I*T, they barely care about themselves. Look at this city and figure it out. The only time blacks care about something is when it effects them financially.

Bravo East Memphis, very well said my friend. You are credit to whats good and decent in this hell hole city. Below is a present for you. C-Ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypTP3kzvBp8

what is this it's a question of race now come on people this is in the bible the world is coming to an end and we need to be ready. this is not a black or white thing it is a spriitual war going on and we have to keep faith in god to survive these people are just letting the devil use them they have no control over themselves people seek god in all this drama

I am an evacuee from New Orleans presently living in Arkansas.  I have the privilege of watching your newscast daily.  I was appalled to hear someone say that because of New Orleans evacuees, the crime rate in Memphis has doubled.  Why can't the citizens of Memphis take responsibility for the outrageous crime rate?  I suppose the murders on Lester street were because of gangs of New Orleans?  I don't care where or who lives where those crimes were outrageous and should not have happened.  The sister of one of the victims is either a bad actress or sincerely believes that her brother had reformed and was not involved in drug activity.  I can't believe that some cold hearted bas-----s killed 2 children and attempted to kill 3 others as a robbery attempt?  You do the math!!!!!

This is a sad day in memphis for any human being,it dont matter what your race is,if this didnot affect you then nothing will!my heart goes out to the familys of the victims!It is really discussting to read some of these heartless coments on here!i pray that the person or persons who committed this senseless act of violence is brought to justice!

We pray and hope for a better future here in Memphis but as a community thats all we do - pray and hope - tomorrow another tragedy looms, a crime over something stupid and we will once again - pray and hope - spread the blame like butter this burnt toast of a city and it still don't change the dry taste misery. Just another day in Memphis, we move on till next episode.

@East memphis you are a joke to me and everybody else who reads the constant rubish you post daily so to you I say have a nice day!

gmoney –  The gun was in the truck and  had nothing whatsoever to do with why 6 jumped on 1. Like the mass killing on Lester, the incident should never have happened!  For you to TRY to condone what happened and state, “you would have helped”, sheds a very poor light on you!

East- where exactly is this black blog of which you speak?

"   gmoney2u said:
@East memphis you are a joke to me and everybody else who reads the constant rubish you post daily so to you I say have a nice day!"
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Gmoney I post facts and information I have personally.  You post that you would have joined in on the violent racial attack.  I believe you.  

The facts of Jena are that six racist thugs viciously attacked one white and then blamed it on some other white kids hanging nooses from the tree they hang out under.  The school's team is named the Cowboys.  

The only white on black attack occured when Mychal and 2 of his homeys tried to crash a private mixed race party and they started talking trash with the GIRL at the door.  ONE of the attendees jumped out and slapped the three brave thugs around.  The three brave thugs then went out into the parking lot and started another fight this time with a group of whites.  That turned out to be some shoving and trash talking.  

Not having saited their desire for racial violence and having been punked out by ONE (A SINGLE) white kid they went to the convenience store to await their next victim. He pulled up in a pickup - he was unrelated to any of the earlier events that evening or the rope hanging that occurred months before.  He had one important qualification - he was small.  The three brave thugs attacked him as he entered the store and he attempted to get back to his truck where he had a shotgun.  Now being gmoney and all you might not know this but lots of farm trucks have shotguns (a tip for when you and your homeys are out to attack white people - pick city people in sedans) He tried to get the shotgun for self defense but with three animals hanging on him, he had it taken away.

Then of course was the shool being burnt down when the only "aggrieved" parties were the blacks because no whites were drawn and quartered for tying knots.

Of course it culminated months after the initial knot tying with the six on one vicious racial attack on another white kid UNRELATED to any of the previous events.

Yes gmoney - I am sure you would join in.  After all - a bunch of young blacks acting in a manner similar to the KKK of 50 years ago, got to go on BET and other TV shows and get applauded, had 40,000 blacks show up to support their violent racist behavior, did magazine articles etc.  

And yes gmoney some of the Jena 6 are the type of thugs that ends up killing other blacks like Lester St. As long as they are attacking whites 40,000 show up to support them.  

The really PITIFUL thing is blacks cannot see the pathology in their thinking.  20 years was too much but Mychal needs a few years at Gladiator School to see where his anger, thoughts and actions are taking him.  Finally blacks don't see that this type of thug and the deification of him by blacks as a whole, is leading hundreds of thousands of other young men into lives of frustration, anger, greed, lust, and envy dooming them.

Since you would have joined in with the Jena 6 - would you have joined in essentially decapitating toddlers?  The inside of the Lester house supposedly looked worse than a horror movie set.

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There was a link on one of the threads of Thaddeus Mathews blogs that led to several outrageous blogs.  It was sickening.  Thads blog has some real offensive stuff posted on it - black and white.  But Thad basically lets people talk - I can't stomach it most of the time but I wander over there occasionally.

Thaddeus is way ahead of the press on a lot of these stories - check his blog - but be prepared - the racists of all ilks post there.  Thad has been shut out of political discussion in this city but his blog has been out front in everything from the TN Waltz to Main Street Sweeper.  Herenton either bought him or blackmailed him last year because he went from outright divulging Herenton's dirty dealings (long before the "real" press) to supporting Herenton?!?!  Something happened.

Anyway Thad was all over the sex "blackmail" story of Herenton.  What gave me pause is the only way the sex story could have hurt Herenton is if it was like the recent police scandal of group and homosexual sex.  Everybody knows Herenton is acting like a teenage boy with every woman he wants and can lay his hands on and NO ONE CARES.  

The trial of that murdering kid is going to be interesting.  When OCU swatted homicide out of the way it made me wonder who or what else was involved.  I hope Ed rests in peace (he evidently was a real decent guy) and I hope that all the evidence will come out.  

With OCU involved who knows what is going to happen.  They have really produced in their penetration of the Gangsta Disciples and later the Vice Lords in a HUGE way - destroying the leadership of both.  They haven't really got the credit they truly deserve. I have heard that their penetration and take-down of the Gangsta Disciples and Vice Lords is textbook stuff for other departments.

But what exactly are they doing involved in a homicide of a cop by a kid?  I don't know and I guess we will get a little info at the trial. But I am not holding my breath thinking we will find out why it was snatched out of homicides hands!

EAST MEMPHIS YOU POSTED A BLOG SAYING THAT THE JENA 6 WHERE BALCK VIOLENT RACIST THUGS. WHAT MAKE THEM THUGS. WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST BE YOUNG MEN ON AN RAMPAGE OR SOMETHING ELSE.
I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF BLOGGER HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE JENA SIX CASE. LET TAKE A LOOK BACK A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN A FEW WHITE BOYS SHOT UP A SCHOOL IN WEST MEMPHIS. THEY WHERE AROUND 12 OR 13 YEARS OLD. WHERE THEY  CALLED YOUNG MEN OR THUGS. I CANT REMEMBER. WHY IS IT THAT WHEN EVER A WHITE PERSON DO SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS KILLING  SOME ONE THERE RECORD BECOMES CLEAN AT THE AGE OF 18 OR 21.BUT WHEN A BLACK PERSON DO SOMETHING IT STAYS ON THERE FOR LIFE.

"  Charliss said:
EAST MEMPHIS YOU POSTED A BLOG SAYING THAT THE JENA 6 WHERE BALCK VIOLENT RACIST THUGS. WHAT MAKE THEM THUGS."
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Actually I said they were black racist thugs.  They were. They went around attacking people based on their race.  

"What make them thugs".  

I am hopelessly white so my definition of a thug is pretty suburban but going around (singly or in groups) beating and robbing people based on race - well I consider that racist thug behavior.  

They may be honor students in the black world (they were described as honor students by Reverend Al - us whites know that honor students are a rough bunch now) but out in the real world (the vast majority of America outside of majority black cities) they are thugs and not just because of their skin color.  Six people savagely beating one is a vicious thuggish attack sweetie.

And sweetie their juvenile records are wiped at 18.  But when they charge a juvenile as an adult many times it is because (as your hero Mychal) they have a string of violent felonies as a juvenile.  That comes out as proof they should be charged as an adult.  However once Mychal reaches 18 he becomes an honor student again as his juvy record is off limits.  He should have been charged as an adult after all he has done.  20 years was ridiculous but he should have done real time. He wasn't because blacks make heros out of criminal thugs and cannot even admit they are criminal thugs.  

The good news is Mychal (and his Memphis counterparts) live in your grandma's neighborhood and when they are looking for someone easy to beat, rob, and possibly rape (I never understood the raping 75 y/o's?) your Grandmama is handy - not mine.  Keep it up.  There is a reason people keep getting shot in your hood - it's the Mychals.  And you will go to the wall for them.

FIRST OF ALL EAST MEMPHIS BEFORE YOU GO OFF SAYING THAT MYCHAEL IS MY HERO YOU NEED TO GET TO ME. SECOND OF ALL IM MIX AND I WAS BORN IN A RUFF NEIGHBORHOOD BUT MY PARENTS MOVE OUT OF THAT SURROUNDING BECAUSE THAT DIDNT WANT ME AND MY SIBLING TO BE EXPOSED TO SUCH VOLIENCE.
SO I GUESS THE KKK IS YOU HERO'S THEN ?
NOT ONCE DID YOU MENTION ABOUT ALL THE WHITE THAT ARE GOING AROUND HERE SHOOTING UP SCHOOL ETC.

"NOT ONCE DID YOU MENTION ABOUT ALL THE WHITE THAT ARE GOING AROUND HERE SHOOTING UP SCHOOL ETC."
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First off you may not be able to grasp this living here but 87% of the country is not black.  Second how many white kids have shot people at school here in Memphis?

How many black kids have shot people at school here?

The miracle of Prozac is responsible for the majority of these shootings and as far as I ( a white male) goes - they can take the punks and eliminate them.  Permanantly - you won't see me marching for them or them on WET (White Entertainment TV) or at any awards shows like those fine black role models the Jena 6.
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FIRST OF ALL EAST MEMPHIS BEFORE YOU GO OFF SAYING THAT MYCHAEL IS MY HERO YOU NEED TO GET TO ME.
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You obviously support the Jena 6.  

I guess we can agree 20 years was too much time.  Beyond that you and most blacks from reading these blogs, think they were justified with using violence.  I think they are violent felon thugs.  

But hey I don't like to live around or support group beatings.  Being white just makes me that way.  (Though I wouldn't shed too many tears if they were to lynch the monsters who, according to some blogs, slashed up those kids on Lester St.  It supposedly looked like a horror movie in the house. How do you cut up a child? A toddler.  I hope the reports are wrong - but I have a very bad feeling they aren't.)

But hey where doe the violence stop once it starts?  

caringforall , you need to think before you read

"  DrWhite said:
caringforall , you need to think before you read"
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And posting!  I really can't comprehend the thought process behind his/her post.

It is not about a person past but what is now.  To brutally murder 4 adutls,2children and leave 3others kids for dead is the issue. It makes no difference what someone did in their past but what is now.  I see that white's go into schools and kill people.  That is not right.  To kill kids and grownups is just as evil.  So catgirl and white man get a real life.  Get into the real world.  Stop bashing people because I know you 2 have a past and it probably holds some real bad things.  

I dont know any of the victims but I do know that no one should be tortured no one.    Everyone should pray that this monster is caught or monsters. So lets pray they catch him, her or both.....  God is the higher being and believe me he is tired......He will prevail and see that all or one is caught.....

When you kill someone you automatically admit that there is something wrong in your life. When you murder multiple people and able to sleep at night and not say a word there is nothing wrong with your life, it's something wrong with you. No matter what king of lives these people led there was not one reason that they should have killed.
Money is the root of all evil, or is it the WANT for the money that causes the problem?

People can sit and blame Mayor Herenton all day long for the crimes that are committed in Memphis, but the problem is deeply rooted than that. I think although Mayor Herenton can play his role in deterring crime, but in the end it is still up to  the citizens of Memphis to play their parts as well by reporting more crimes that are being committed in their neighborhoods and coming together as a whole not only when tragedy strikes but on a day to day bases as a means of unity!  A person can easy point a finger at someone else, but if the finger pointing stop and everyone becomes a part of the solution develping a fist and then they can strike a mighty blow!

To say it doesn't matter what you did in the past is ridiculous!  Of course it matters!  I am not saying people can't change.  I am all for believing in miracles!  However, if your lifestyle is/was a dangerous one, how dare you place others in your family, especially children who have no choice, in danger?  Make other arrangements for the kids!    

As for blaming our illustrious mayor, why not?  Had he been a real leader, maybe crime wouldn't be so bad in Memphis!  

I knew Marissa from school back in junior high.  I seen her last year and she said everything was ok.  Now i hear of this happening.  She didnt bother noone.  And to kill the babies is heartless.  And it seems real personal too me. Like its a cover up to hide the identity of the killer.  Killing everyone?  Now i that looks personal and whoever did it knew the family.  Dont MPD have this equipment to make a crime scene come to life in 3-D?  They need to use it.  Someone saw something!  What kind of dayz are we living in when whole families are being murdered.  And its a police precinct down the street from the incident.  I know what the problem is...OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TOO DAMN BUSY BEING AT THESE GAS STATIONS THAT SERVE DOUGHNUTS AND COFFEE AND PULLING PEOPLE OVER GIVING OUT TICKETS LIKE THEY NEVER HAD A BONUS BEFORE.  WE NEED MORE UNITS ON THE STREET PATROLLING AROUND PRBLEM AREAS.  THEY NEED TO LEARN WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY INSTED OF JUST TRYING TO EARN A PAYCHECK. AND WHERE IS THE PERSON THAT CALLED THE SISTER PHONE FROM HER HOUSE WHILE SHE WAS AT THE PRECINCT?  I KNOW SHE KNOWS THE VOICE. AND WHERE IS THE BROTHER THAT PULLED A GUN PUT ON CECIL LAST MONTH?  nOONE HEARS OR SEES NOTHING?  MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME, (WHEN U THINK NOONE IS WATCHING, THERE IS).  LIKE I SAID, THE STUPID *** WHO KILLED THEM, KNEW THEM!  THE POLICE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FAMILY MEMBERS.  SOMEONE IS NOT TELLING EVERYTHING THEY KNOW!  OUR HEARTS WILL ALWAYZ BE WITH U MARISSA

FOLKS, This is far worse than you can imagine.  Far worse.  Like it better be raining and cold when the details come out if they ever do.  What Thad Mathews has on his blog page is just the beginning.  This is savagery that is totally incomprehensible to civilized people and if the rumors of culpability are true this city could burn.

PRAY the guilty aren't out of the country and are brought to justice - severe justice. If they aren't we could see a south central scene here.

If what the firefighter told is true the crime scene makes Scarface look like a 1960's Disney Movie.  I can't even print it.

There is a tragedy here...innocent children were hurt. That is where the focus should be... end of story.

The terrible tragedy is that children were hurt and killed, but the focus should be on getting the animal(s) off the street and in jail ASAP.  If they did this kind of thing once, they will do it again.  And believe me, the level of savagery of the murders and injuries is evidence of sub-human being(s) with no conscience!  

It is bad enough for an idiot DJ (Bobby O'Jay) to tell citizens not to ‘snitch’. It is worse for morons (Thad Mathews)  to stir up, or print information that has not been verified simply for shock value! This kind of ignorance is not helping detectives or officers solve this horrific crime. To me, these are nothing more than 'want-to-be-important' people who continually prove how pathetically stupid they are.

"  Dover said:
It is bad enough for an idiot DJ (Bobby O'Jay) to tell citizens not to ‘snitch’. It is worse for morons (Thad Mathews)  to stir up, or print information that has not been verified simply for shock value! This kind of ignorance is not helping detectives or officers solve this horrific crime. To me, these are nothing more than 'want-to-be-important' people who continually prove how pathetically stupid they are."
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Thad's info is more right than wrong.  Cecil was robbing the wrong people. He reaped what he sowed, but I think we can agree that the children didn't deserve to pay for their parent's sins.  That is a trademark of MS-13.

If it was MS-13 the killers are long gone.

You have no idea what went on in that house.  It was barbaric beyond belief and you can't imagine it.

As far as Thad's credibility - he has been way out in front of the press on many stories - and dead wrong on others.  He has some real facts here.

What he has reported is very conservative to what he knows - his sources are good in the department and what happened in there was horrific.  It makes Scarface look like a Disney movie trust me.

East Memphis – I respect your right to read the blogs  and believe some details are correct. It's my opinion,  it serves NO worthwhile purpose to start rumors or post unsubstantiated details.

You said, "some of his (Thad Mathews) stories were dead wrong".  That is my point, no one knows what statements are facts yet.  I've been told things too but, until the story is told by investigators, it's rumors. I don’t have to see a photo or read ‘rumors’ to know what happened was horrific. The killer/killers were nothing less than sub-human.

It concerns me that citizens are already scared and they don’t need to be told to keep quiet or read ‘details’ that are not documented by MPD. If there is someone who knows something and they were thinking of giving information to MPD…all of the idiots that spout off..will scare them and keep them from telling anything.

"That is my point, no one knows what statements are facts yet.  I've been told things too but, until the story is told by investigators, it's rumors. I don’t have to see a photo or read ‘rumors’ to know what happened was horrific."
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I know a first responder. Thad's comments on this are EXTREMELY conservative.  EXTREMELY.  We are talking reciprocating saws, blunt instruments, kneecapped adults and extended torture of children family members.  I was told it could not be described.

Al Sharpton's hero - Cecil Dotson - a long time GD robbed Hispanics and robbed the wrong ones. He was rumored to have made a huge score recently.  Everyone in his family paid dearly.  I see savagery in the black community that shocks me.  You see my comments here - all the blacks think I am a racist - I am not - I am prejudiced - there is a difference.

What happened here - if you knew - was beyond what I can comprehend any group of blacks doing and I think there are black savages and animals in this city.  This incident is beyond belief.  Read up on MS-13 and how they deal with people who cross them.

I need to clarify - by "all of the idiots that spout off" - I meant O'Jay and Mathews. I did not mean anyone on this blog. We're all going by hear-say at this point.

East Memphis - Absolutely nothing shocks me anymore. I know little about gangs but when the story broke, and mug shots were shown, it certainly made sense that this could be a gang related matter. I would love to see 'breaking news' about the arrest of all who were involved but....that may never happen.

I still question why someone didn't remove the children long ago.

Forgive me East Memphis, but you habitually "know" things and make veiled comments and throw out little tid bits of "supposed" knowledge.....if you have something to say, say it...if not, leave all the conjecture to the idiots.  

"I still question why someone didn't remove the children long ago."
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You know I question that too, then I think of the unbridled power and injustice that could and does occur from the state taking children.  In only four state do you even have a right to a jury trial to keep your children.  That terrifies me, of all the rights you have - the right to raise your children should be far above any others.  I think the state should have taken them but fear the power that gives it.  TN needs a due process for custody of children that includes an ability to demand a jury trial.

The torture of the children here was used to punish the kneecapped adults for their transgressions.  I can't understand the evil that leads someone to try and scalp a child with a sawz-all and break a blade off in his head, leave a knife in another child, practically decapitate several people, use boards from a bed to bash a child's face in and other things that I really can't print here - it was that grotesque all to punish someone else.  The ability to do these things alone is, I can't think of a proper word, doing it to punish someone else is so grotesque and evil it truly does make me think we need to go waaay back in Old English Law and punishments for a proper punishment.

The person I know was in there for only a minute or two.  Probably far more happened he didn't see.  I know this is the most grotesque thing I have ever read, watched on a documentary, or even seen in a movie.  Thad knows everything from his black sources in the department and what he posted was tame compared to the totality.

I trust what I heard from an eyewitness, I wish I  would find out it was wrong, it is that disturbing.

Like I said I have seen savagery in the black community that shocks me - but nothing like this.  This comes from a devil worshiping gang cult like MS-13.
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Absolutely nothing shocks me anymore.
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You are a normal human - this couldn't help but shock you.  A normal person can't comprehend what went on in there.  I don't agree with the shrieks that no one should say anything about their lifestyle (I got savaged for questioning the recent MPD officers lifestyle before it was public).  However these children's fate was not reasonably foreseeable.  Them catching a bullet yes - being tortured in front of their parents - no.  They deserved neither.

"Forgive me East Memphis, but you habitually "know" things and make veiled comments and throw out little tid bits of "supposed" knowledge.....if you have something to say, say it...if not, leave all the conjecture to the idiots. "
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I will leave what I know unreleased until it is out there for everyone to find.  There is a reason the police are hiding details, they don't want a riot.

It is out there at several places now if you know where to look so - if you really want to know - one of the women was gutted with a sawz-all starting with her reproductive organ. The sawzall blade was later broken off in a child's head in the process of scalping him. That was just one of the atrocities according to someone there. I believe them.  

Go jump in a lake.  

Sorry if I offended your sensibilities there East Memphis, but it is apparent that you are a bit thin skinned and don't enjoy being questioned or challenged.  Frankly, my dear, there will be no jumping in the lake for me.  I still stand by what I said....you seem to enjoy throwing out little tiodbits and inflaming people, but I question your "sources."  Most people who have real insider knowledge either put it out there or keep it to themselves for whatever reason.  

P.S.  I am not saying I do or do not believe what you are saying, but you seem to love the drama of it all more than the apparent need to know or share info or ideas.

does anyone know how to see shindri roberson's pics

Before this we were known as the most violent city, but this takes it to a whole new level. I can’t even find a word to describe it. It troubles me that human beings that live 20 minutes west of me live in a place that resembles the Middle East.They can’t get out even if they wanted to. Whats even more troubling is thet they’ve gotten acoustomed to it. It disturbs me for the elderly as much as the young. I think its wrong to say that prayer won’t help. When two or more are gathered in his name. I’m sure sorry this has happened. I truly am.

EastMemphis, I know what you are refering to and It's very true. My daughter n law works at the hospital where the kids are. I have a friend at the MFD and he told me about the adults. I just can't understand it. I PRAY IT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW NORM.

Dr. White....re:  I PRAY IT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW NORM.

I hope and pray not either.....It's horrible!  

East Memphis – I’m not saying there are not sadistic people like those you described, I’m saying I can’t comprehend anyone being that sick.  As I said before, I just pray the slugs that  committed the murders are caught and quickly put to death.

As for keeping ‘real facts’ from the public due to a “fear of riots”.  Riots would accomplish nothing but more murders, that would, no doubt, involve innocent adults and more innocent children.   Anyone who thinks rioting is an option would be no better than the sub-humans we all want arrested in this murder case.

"P.S.  I am not saying I do or do not believe what you are saying, but you seem to love the drama of it all more than the apparent need to know or share info or ideas."
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I guess I am just not as well balanced as you who was making statements and judgments without any knowledge.

And if you wonder if the drama of this affected me yes it did.  

Having 4 and 8 year old daughters and a wife the thought of someone gutting my wife with a power tool starting with her genitals, raping my prepubescent children, beating my child's face in - literally, scalping one of my children breaking off a sawz-all blade in their head, cutting their fingers off, while I sat helpless really struck me like nothing I can describe.  Satan was in that room.  It has utterly devastated me when I look at my children and think that other children near their ages were used by pure evil to punish a piece of trash like Cecil Dotson it does bring up drama in me.

I wouldn't have shed a tear had Cecil and his other homey been taken and tortured but when I heard what happened to those children as young as 2 months - it affected me in a way I can't describe.

This was pure evil.  I hope my friend lied to my face and you can laugh at me.  I would love to think those children died painlessly.

If it was MS-13 and it appears to be their M.O. I have reconsidered some things I used to say I didn't care about.

And you should question my sources, it is a blog and you do not appear to be fatuous.

Before the cops lifestyle was busted out and I knew it - I said it might be his lifestyle and did not go further with details about it. I was savaged for that. Some of those who attacked me later acted like the cop was less a victim because he was a bisexual group sex freak.  

I think he is every bit the cop he was after these revelations as he was before.  (While on that subject I would flash back to the attempted "blackmail" that made big news earlier this year - do you really think Willie was worried about the public finding out he was banging topless dancers?)  

AND I would not have put out what happened above if it wasn't out there already. It's out on other sources and substantively the same as I was told.

"Anyone who thinks rioting is an option would be no better than the sub-humans we all want arrested in this murder case."
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You read what I post on this blog about black's apparent lack of impulse control and the tendency toward group violence and I think you know I agree 100% with you.

"  DrWhite said:
EastMemphis, I know what you are refering to and It's very true. My daughter n law works at the hospital where the kids are. I have a friend at the MFD and he told me about the adults. I just can't understand it. I PRAY IT'S NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW NORM."
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The person who told me has told me many things all of which turned out true.  Even he qualified what he said by stating he was just in there for a minute or two.  However what he described was unbelievable to a civilized person.

Those poor children - for HOURA after it happened they were left in that house with their slaughtered parents.  

Look East Memphis. I do not make statements and judgments without any knowledge...in fact, quite the contrary.....I don't "claim" to have knowledge when I don't.  As for being facetious in your comment "I guess I am just not as well balanced as you," that's okay; I am thick-skinned and can take your sarcasm.  My opinions and responses are those of the “uninformed.”  I was appalled, sickened and yes, fearful of what went on over on Lester Street.  

However, the pictures you describe of what went on in that house are horrific!  If they are true, then you are 100% right, Satan was in that house.  But let me tell you Buddy, he is not only in that house.  He is everywhere and counting on his minions not to tell what they know……. but that is another debate, and I don't want you labeling me some kind of "religious freakazoid."

"but that is another debate, and I don't want you labeling me some kind of "religious freakazoid.""
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We can both have that label.

P.s The black gangs like the Folk and People nation have Allah as part of their "handbooks" which you can find with internet searches.  MS-13 from what I understand has Satanic worship as part of its base.

"  mnshadow53 said:
Look East Memphis. I do not make statements and judgments without any knowledge...in fact, quite the contrary "
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Peace although we disagree some, I read and have respect for yours opinions.  

I try not to overstep my bounds and do have some friends who have knowledge of what goes on in this city.  I won't generally ever say anything before it is public but it does frustrate me when I see stuff not reported that should be.  (Like the fact that Cecil Dotson was a GD and an Armed Robber initially.)

Blogs are the real news in this city, in many cases they drive the "real" press to actually report things.  Thad Mathews, as much as I dislike him for flip flop on Herenton broke most of the real stories surrounding the Fords and City Government long before the "reliable" press did.  He also has thrown quite a few bad stories and stories full of racial hatemongering out there.

I think this whole situation is a disgrace NO ONE deserves to die over anything in this world. I pull my hat off to the victim's sister, she is terribly hurt but she is still holding on!!!!! I also think that if anyone knows anything about this situation they should say something and not just sit around somewhere and do nothing!!!!!!!! WHO CARES about their background I know I don't I just want the killer to be found and this whole thing to be over with NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this whole situation is a disgrace NO ONE deserves to die over anything in this world. I pull my hat off to the victim's sister, she is terribly hurt but she is still holding on!!!!! I also think that if anyone knows anything about this situation they should say something and not just sit around somewhere and do nothing!!!!!!!! WHO CARES about their background I know I don't I just want the killer to be found and this whole thing to be over with NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLD THE PRESSES!!!!!

http://www.shelby-sheriff.org/inmateinfo/kiosk/kiosk_detail.php?RID=718804C3-7C8A-4604-997E-C47A50B7EB05&RNI=211613&BOOKNUM=8107778

Arrested this morning.  I can't believe he could kill his own family this way.  I

He just got out of prison on an 18 year sentence for 2cnd degree murder. He was arrested this morning for 1st degree murder

OMG it's hard to believe one person alone could have killed all those people that way!  

There is a lot unexplained here.  A lot.  The guy brother supposedly killed everyone to coverup.  We saw the pictures of Shindri. Why did he shoot the girl in the knee twice if he intended to just kill her?  And then suffocate her?  Why not shoot her once in the head.  I believe sawz-all was used as a weapon from first hand report. The press has reported the child's fingers being cut off and the knife in the head.

It sure doesn't fit someone killing his family to coverup.  

One person did all this to the violent felons in that house?!?! I guess I can see one person being that savage.  I though it was a group - I couldn't see a group being that savage. It boggles my mind he could do it to his family and nephews and neices.

I sure am dubious about this.  Why kill the family to hide it, not lawyer up and then confess - maybe he likes prison.

East Memphis-- Most of the time I get on here to read what you write. I like that fact that you are informed. Too many people, like some of the morons above(gmoney) just spout off what they heard on some radio station or read in BET magazine or some other "reliable" source. Its sad that he doesn't want us stereotyping blacks, but then says he would jump in on beating these people which just backed up the stereotype!!! Did he even notice he did that? When will we stop neglecting personal responsibilty and make these kids pay for what they did? Are they gonna march on this guys house and neighborhood?  I doubt it. Hey you big dummies, if you don't want to be stereo-typed, break it. Teach your kids not to use violence, since it seems that is all they resort to. And when these white kids you mentioned that shoot up schools, they didn't target a race. They just went in to kill. They were nuts. That is the white races problems. Those kids are on so many drugs they don't know right from wrong. Kids that aren't educated in how to deal with life will just look like the animals in a zoo. Animals don't negotiate. They just react violently. When will the people stop acting like animals and start acting like people. The greats of the Civil Rights movements tried to get the people looked at like they weren't animals. Now, we are just reversing everything they have done.
     East Memphis I respect you. I enjoy good conversations and you seem to be the type that would have the knowledge to have them. I wish I ran in your group. They sound educated and informed. We need more of that in Memphis.

   And to the idiots, for the love of everything Holy, please get you some edumaction. (meant to be misspelled) Some of you sound just like the idiots you defend. How can you make a decent argument if you can't form whole sentences. Surprise to you all, sentences have subjects and verbs and even direct objects. Words are comprised of vowels AND consanants. I'm not surprised your chirlrens aint edumacated when you aren't. Why should they care when you obviously don't? Look how far you've gotten in life. You got your own room in your boo's house to share with your chirlrens. Come on people!!! You can not get the respect that so many of us fought for until you derserve it. Right now, you certainly don't.
 Thank you.

gmoney2u--- how can you blame all this on production companies and rappers and any one else that makes a living on the money that our community gives them? Wouldn't they be out of a job if they weren't supported? Where do you think the money comes from? Do you think they go out like the Girl Scouts and sell cookies to raise the money? Do you think that they sell candy bars like some school kids? NO! How is this not obvious to you? They sit back and let the money come to them. Its the American Spirit at its best. You sell a product that people want. True, they are to blame for part of it, but get real. They can sell it because people want it and ask for it. Do you think 50 cent(s) would make money if he started doing opera? The black community wouldn't go for that. The black community, and sadly too many whites now support it, desire it. They feed off it. It had to start somewhere. Most likely the "stars" got the support they needed from the streets before they made it big. Everything starts in the home and community. It all can be traced back there. Until we start getting our community and homes in order, we will fight this same fight, and most likely, we will continue not to be on the victorious side.

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East Memphis-- Most of the time I get on here to read what you write. I like that fact that you are informed. Too many people, like some of the morons above(gmoney) just spout off what they heard on some radio station or read in BET magazine or some other "reliable" source. Its sad that he doesn't want us stereotyping blacks, but then says he would jump in on beating these people which just backed up the stereotype!!! Did he even notice he did that? When will we stop neglecting personal responsibilty and make these kids pay for what they did? Are they gonna march on this guys house and neighborhood?  I doubt it."
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Thank You - this forum needs everyones input short of outright hatred.  Gmoney has anger - I understand that.  But group violence - I can't understand.  I have only been in the midst of a mob twice - and it was terrifying for me.  It was like a virus of violence had spread and you could feel it on your skin down into your bones. One of the times it broke out into a full fight. The other thankfully petered out. Some seem to like it.

I love this city. I hate what I see happening. I hate that my wife and I plan to leave. It is heart rending - THIS IS HOME - but it has become unrecognizable.

There was a time when old people could sit on their porches - in any neighborhood.  There was a time when the vast majority of fights were settled without serious injury and people were friends a week later - in any neighborhood.  There was a time when adults - Fathers - kept order - in any neighborhood.  When I was a kid, if a parent said he was going to talk to my father about what I was doing, I prayed it was an idle threat.

Now it is like a bunch of 16 y/o's in 25 y/o bodies run the entire city.  

My mother used to work at UT.  One of her co-workers, a black lady, was one of the happiest most easy going people she had ever met.  She elevated everyones mood and was one of those people who are eternally happy.  (I wish I was one of them.) She disappeared one day.  When she returned to work a few weeks later she was changed - different. Quiet, brooding, broken.  Her mother had been sunning herself on the porch in her wheelchair.  A young thug walking down the street saw her - jumped up on the porch - wheeled her inside - robbed her - brutally raped her breaking her hip - she never got out of the hospital.

I can see a need for neighborhood group violence there, a lynching, if it was my neighbor I would be enraged beyond belief, but I know where that leads.  Law must stand and law must be just.  That punk deserved the death penalty - If anyone ever did. He didn't get it and I am sure he is out among us by now.

I don't understand it, I fear it, I don't want my daughters out around it.  They can't understand it and I don't want them to.  We have to move.  Let the housing market come back a little.

East Memphis---It seems to me that, in the crowds that I run, the white folk are over the hatred the permeated the south and this city at one time. It seems like they are ready to move on. However, that hatred has now turned to fear. I don't hear negative remarks made by the white folk I'm around. I don't see the hatred or disgust that the ol