Todd County Sheriff Billy Stokes
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I will use a racist term - redneck ***.  What do you say to an able bodied man who takes a handicap space?  I can't say it here.

I require a handicap space due to spinal cord injury.  On good days, I don't use it, grateful that I am not paralysed, which, by rights, I should be.  Official business, right.  It doesn't matter.  He could walk the extra feet unless there were a hostage situation or some other crises that required right up front access.  He sould be reprimanded and required to write a public letter of apology to Mr. Draper.

I can count on one hand the number of times I have used part of a handicap place in the 45 plus years on the planet.  They all involved a convenience store near my old house with 4 parking places ONE handicapped and no real other place to park.  When there are two clerks in the building and you are the second customer  . . . . .  Even then I feel like I am doing something wrong.

I am greatful to be able to walk.  When I see some person scream up to a handicap place jump out and run in - it really gets to me.  It gets to me even more when they have a BS handicap tag.  

I was at Kroger the other day and walking up and this big @$$ Ford or Mercury screams up and two fat rednecks males jump out and walked in.  They had a tag - I yelled, "hey you forgot your crutches".  

It was probably their mom's car or a fake tag.

Besides having eaten themselves either into type II diabetes, or the verge of it, they were as mobile as I am, and definitely could have used the exercise.  They tried to stare me down in the store and I blew them a kiss.  

The fat pigs were unhandicapped enough to want to fight.  I laughed in their face.  When they figured out I was unintimidated they walked off saying I wasn't worth their time. The way I was feeling one of them at least would have been dealing with at least some facial lacerations if they had pursued the matter.  In hindsight it was idiotic on my part - those type of people are their own punishment.

I guess in Memphis they had every right to bust a cap in me.  

I applaud Todd County for charging this bozo for abusing his "privilege" as a LEO. They are to be held accountable to the same laws as we are, period.

East- I said it once, I'll say it again. Your life is WAY TOO DRAMA FILLED, man. And you know what? You bring almost all of it on yourself.

"East- I said it once, I'll say it again. Your life is WAY TOO DRAMA FILLED, man. And you know what? You bring almost all of it on yourself. "
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Yeah I once lived in a neighborhood full of twits with the same attitude - Cooper  Young.  

They sat around like it was all good. One couple from Connecticut expressed delight at the multicultural nature of our hood to me LITERALLY as two teens walked down the street - one with a car radio under their arm.  

I really didn't know what to say.

BTW, they had enough brains to figure it out, after having everything not nailed down on their nicely appointed front porch (those houses are really cool) stolen a few times and then having the 60 y/o woman next to them almost raped 35 feet from their front door.

Even the homosexuals are screeching about the crime now.  

They looked at me like I was from outer space when I said you need to go out and look at people who don't belong and call the police.

Their property values are plummeting - if they can sell their house for what they have in it. One of my best friends stopped paying for his house after it had been on the market for 5 months.  He said he wasn't pouring any more money down the toilet. Three people shot within 200 yards of his house within a year. Cooper and Nelson. He sold it for what he had left in it before the foreclosure - barely.  Many there won't be so lucky.  

Bwaa Haa Haaa.  

Thugs are robbing people left and right in there now.

Come to think of it - there were a lot of Cat Lovers in that neighborhood. Do you live in Cooper Young? Have you eaten yourself into Type II? Do you have a handicap sticker because you waddle around now?

You are the type that destroys a neighborhood.  The thugs we will always have in this city.  The people who do nothing about what is going on around them - they are the real problem.  They embolden the thugs.

" Cooper and Nelson."
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Excuse me Barksdale and Nelson

East Memphis....are you ok?  You are beginning to worry me.....

I'm fine.
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You are the type that destroys a neighborhood.  The thugs we will always have in this city.  The people who do nothing about what is going on around them - they are the real problem.  They embolden the thugs.
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That is the truth.  

I am the type that destroys a neighborhood?  Wow, that's a pretty big assumption to make when you don't even know me.  However, if your posts are indicative of your charachter, you are rather paranoid and love to hang out with women who like to beat you up.  Say it ain't so Joe......

East- you're a jerk. I try to like you, but you make it really difficult.

No- I'm not diabetic or overweight. Do you think I am because I love cats? Do the two go hand in hand? You also tend to be a little judgmental, don't you think?

Shadow and her family actually give back to the neighborhood in ways you will never know or appreciate. Many of us do. We have no need to toot our own horns. We choose to make the world a better place in our own way. Might not be your violent/confrontational way, but it still works.

I for one, am glad that I am obviously a happier person than you seem to be. It must be tiring to go around looking for the negative everywhere. And before you even try to say that I would change my tune if I were ever a "victim" well... I have been a victim of crime. Robbed at gunpoint by five known gang members. Police caught them and they went to jail. But I choose to NOT let that TAINT my outlook on life. Makes me a little more cautious than I ALREADY WAS, but not completely jaded.

Hey CatGirl....I am so sorry I missed the post where East Memphis was nasty to you.  Had I seen it, I promise I would have come to your defense, as you have come to mine on many occasions  

The problem with people like East Memphis is that they “assume” too much.  East naturally assumes that some of us think like him or react like him.  The problem is he doesn’t know much about us, so his assumptions are generally wrong.

If he had met you, as I have, he would know that you are petite, trim and attractive.  Your love for animals and inability to “rush to judgment” about people you do not know, make you neither fat nor diabetic.  Your caring and compassionate disposition allow you to try to like someone like East Memphis, but eventually your frustration with his skewed outlook on life make this difficult to impossible to do.

Take heart Catgirl, we still have logical and rational bloggers with whom we can communicate!  :- )    

Catgirl - As we all know, when someone ‘thinks’ they are an authority on all subjects and  has the need to share a ‘personal experience’  pretaining to 90% of the topics  (gays, guns,  animals, robbery,  mpd, tbi, electrical wiring, smoke detectors, etc.) they are full of  ‘hot air’.  We have now seen this kind of person knows nothing about you,  or what defines a ‘catlover’.    ;-)

"You also tend to be a little judgmental, don't you think?"
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Catgirl, you really need to figure out who is running their mouth at whom first.  You are a might haughty sweetie for being the one who is calling other's out.

As to the rest of you girls - you can live on in your world, where a woman with two children, who says her house is a fire trap, and doesn't have smoke detectors is not an idiot.  In my world she is.  She is also responsible for the deaths of her children.

 mnshadow53 said:
I am the type that destroys a neighborhood?
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The post referred to two subjects Catgirl and you.  I don't know if you are the type that thinks that their neighbors who confront people who are commiting crimes is a "Drama Queen" but if you are tell all your neighbors so they can ignore you and your property.

Thank you ladies. *hugs* And btw- Shadow is an absolutely DELIGHTFUL LADY with a smile/infectious laugh that lights up any room she is in. And her genuine kindness is reflected in her eyes. That is not something you can fake.

East- I just don't like your style. You are WAY TOO confrontational and abrasive. Yeah, those are good words. I'm not against standing up for what is right, and doing the right thing, but as I have told you a gazillion times- there IS more than one way to get things done. You gather more flies with honey sometimes.

You, however, only have ONE way to handle things- with rudeness and brute force.

I also find it funny that you can't handle ANYONE daring not to think the sun rises and sets on you. If we DARE to disagree or have our own opinions that differ from you, you get confrontational, argumentative, and rude.

I'll still try to like you, as it is the right thing to do.

East Memphis Said:  The post referred to two subjects Catgirl and you.  I don't know if you are the type that thinks that their neighbors who confront people who are committing crimes is a "Drama Queen" but if you are tell all your neighbors so they can ignore you and your property.
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You are acting like a spoiled child, just because CatGirl and I did not agree with you.  Honestly, I thought, as an adult, you would have the grace and common sense to realize that everyone cannot and will not agree with you all the time.  Get over yourself, Laddie, or you will spend your days looking for ghosts under the bed and resenting everybody.  

Nobody said the world is the Garden of Eden, but East Memphis you create a lot of your own problems.  You have a million stories about which you are an expert on every subject.  Somebody always wants to beat you up, harm your family or not do things the way you think they should be done.  Different does not equal bad.  I am not saying that everyone in Memphis is a saint equipped with their own halo, but if I'd had as many horrible experiences in my life as you've had, I would have shot myself a long time ago.

mnshadow53, Catgirl, East Memphis---To the ladies, I think East has had a lot of problems in life with people. I think he is over trying to talk things out. The two very different attitudes between the three of you make this world great. East seems to be a little jaded. I can't really blame him, though. The background I have has made me the same way. I find it really hard to trust anyone. However, with different attitudes comes great changes. If we all had the same outlook on life blogs like this one would be really sad. There have been a few posts that I didn't like of East's, but it would seem that a cautious outlook on things is what gets people home alive. Maybe East has gone to the extreme side, and maybe you all are too soft. Who knows?
   I would say, that I would love to see East be in charge of sentencing people that use parking spaces just because they are lazy and selfish. I'm so tired of seeing healthy people use parking spaces they shouldn't. Just because you have a hurt toe doesn't mean you are allowed to use those spaces. Also, your race is not a handicap. If people would walk from the back of the lot, maybe they wouldn't be so fat.

East- I just don't like your style. You are WAY TOO confrontational and abrasive.
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Again Catgirl look at the thread and see who has name called been confrontational with who first.  It was you - as you have done at least twice previously with me.  Both of those times I let it go.  You do it with quite a few people here.

I grew up in this city. There was a time when people were confrontational with unacceptable behavior.  The city was a nice place to live.  

Now it is filled with people like you who moan about others, do nothing, and actually act offended if someone says something to someone taking a handicap space.  It is simply unacceptable behavior.  

You know what living in a "fire trap" with children is pretty unacceptable but some people have to do it.  Living in a "fire trap" with children without a working fire detector (Sheesh you can get two for 7 dollars) is plain criminal.  She can go to the fire department and get one for free.  

You can get off your name calling high horse - almost all of the confrontations you are involved in here you provokeWITH NAME CALLING OR ATTACKS ON  THE PEOPLE'S CHARACTER.  

It is you, who as the previous poster pointed out, will not allow others to have their opinions and instead of attacking their opinions - you attack them.

Try attacking their argument.

"mnshadow53, Catgirl, East Memphis---To the ladies, I think East has had a lot of problems in life with people."
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I have had some as my old neighborhood started slide into an unlivable condition as others  sat around and let it happen.  People have two eyes. When punks are walking throught your neighborhood - put your eyes on them - make eye contact - call the police.  A few people on a street doing it can make a huge difference.  A few streets like that in a neighborhood - you have a half way decent neighborhood.

As far as handicap spaces go - taking a handicap place with your mom's tag, a fake tag, or a tag for self inflicted behavior - well I think it is unacceptable.  White, black, male, female. It has become the norm here.  I ignore it most of the time but certain instances - mainly involving white males - embarass me, as a white male, into action.  (It probably did the guy in the story too.) People laughing at the fat slugs above embarassed them and they tried to confront me in the store - not out where other people were looking and laughing.

I need to move - Montana, East Tennessee or the Gulf Coast.  Somewhere where unacceptable behavior is still unacceptable.

mnshadow - sweetie you need to read back on this thread (and many others) to see who starts calling names.  

You and your cohorts are as bad as gmoney2u.  

You show a complete inability to argue points without adhominen attacks.  

Poor, poor wittle East. I am SO SORRY that I called you a jerk. I am so sorry that I bruised your delicate constitution. After all, you're a lover, not a fighter, right?

What is sad is that many of your points are valid and many of us actually agree with them. However, we choose to not ATTACK the other people sharing our world in the dogmatic style that you do- day after day after day.

You ASSUME that because we do not rant and rave and spew forth aggressive diatribes that we are not proactive in making our community a better place. THAT, sir, is where you would be wrong. You don't KNOW any of us- AT ALL.

Anyway. I will end with this. Your points, though valid many times, are going to continue to fall on deaf ears (along with those who are not capable or willing to be articulate/use proper grammar and punctuation) because those very valid points are buried in such aggressively distracting phraseology.

It might behoove all of us to listen more and talk less. So, I'm going to practice what I preach with you and listen to you, but talk to you less- much less.

And yes, perhaps you should move. I would think that much aggression would follow in your wake, and leave things a bit more peaceful for the rest of us.  

East Memphis....we will have to agree to disagree.  If you are now comparing me to gmoney, you really do have an even more serious psychological problem than I originally thought.  Cohorts?  I have cohorts?  That sounds ever more paranoid.  I think you mean others who also disagree with or challenge you.  

what is an adhominen attack?

East....you should move, but do not move to Montana.  I lived there and they don't care much for those who pick fights with everyone who disagrees with them.  If you think there are a lot of guns in Memphis, you won't like Montana either.  Ranchers live there and folks who still respect the earth and have very little patience for "citified" trouble makers.  But then, unfortunately, there are also militias where I think you would fit in well.  They too are racist, exclusive, paranoid, and reclusive.  Sounds like Nirvana for you.  

That said I apologize for this and all previous name calling, not because I think I am wrong, in general name calling is out of character for me.  However, in spite of my misgivings, I stand by what I say as true.  

Here Shadow- let me help- since you've "NEVER" taken Latin- hahaha.... wink, wink...

I believe East MEANT to say ad hominem.

Wow CatGirl....I was afraid East meant an abdominal attack or abominable attack.  In the broadest sense, I am not entirely sure what ad hominem has to do with it.  I guess my attacks could be considered a public notice, but not sure if they would be considered advertisements or flyers!  LOL

Ego sum rumex, mea culpa

East....you should move, but do not move to Montana.  I lived there and they don't care much for those who pick fights with everyone who disagrees with them.  If you think there are a lot of guns in Memphis, you won't like Montana either.  Ranchers live there and folks who still respect the earth and have very little patience for "citified" trouble makers.  But then, unfortunately, there are also militias where I think you would fit in well.  They too are racist, exclusive, paranoid, and reclusive.  Sounds like Nirvana for you.  

That said I apologize for this and all previous name calling,
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That about says it all.

As to your other point I missed the space and hit the n instead of the m but:

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.

You ought to be familiar with the term - it about sums up your entire blogging style.

Facts according to East Memphis not necessarily equal to scientific/proven facts- often opinion, not always evidence based.

"  Catgirl said:
Facts according to East Memphis not necessarily equal to scientific/proven facts- often opinion, not always evidence based."
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I probably have missed it but I don't remember you providing a single link or even pasted definition.  All of your blogging is attacks and opinions.  Throw in a substantiated fact occasionally.

For my friend, East- a link that he can sink his teeth into. And hopefully swallow and digest.

http://www.anger-management-resources.org/index.php?c=43

Well done CatGirl  LOL  

And as for ad hominem arguments....you need to heed your own words.  

You said An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.  

Seems to me the following posts, just in this blog alone, are evidence of attacking the person, rather than addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.


East Memphis said:Now it is filled with people like you who moan about others, do nothing, and actually act offended if someone says something to someone taking a handicap space.  It is simply unacceptable behavior.

East Memphis said:mnshadow - sweetie you need to read back on this thread (and many others) to see who starts calling names.  You and your cohorts are as bad as gmoney2u.  

East Memphis said:Catgirl, you really need to figure out who is running their mouth at whom first.  You are a might haughty sweetie for being the one who is calling other's out.

East Memphis said:As to the rest of you girls - you can live on in your world, where a woman with two children, who says her house is a fire trap, and doesn't have smoke detectors is not an idiot.  In my world she is.  She is also responsible for the deaths of her children.

East Memphis said:You are the type that destroys a neighborhood.  The thugs we will always have in this city.  The people who do nothing about what is going on around them - they are the real problem.  They embolden the thugs.

East Memphis said:Come to think of it - there were a lot of Cat Lovers in that neighborhood. Do you live in Cooper Young? Have you eaten yourself into Type II? Do you have a handicap sticker because you waddle around now?

mnshadow - there is this scroll bar thingie on the side of the screen - it will allow you to go ALL the way to the top of the thread and read down.   You can use your arrow keys or page up page down.  Try it before you post.

whatsa matter East....beat on this one too?  LOL

Come now, children. Whats funny is, that after reading all of your dialogues, I actually forgot what topic was for this post. Maybe I'm tired, or something, but I just don't feel like getting in on this one. Especially since I can't even remember the topic by the time I get to the bottom of the page.

Oops, I guess I just did get in on this one.
Crap.

Yes nvrplyn...you are right....enough is enough.  I'm done!  LOL